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From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>
Cc: Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] userland swsusp
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:47:46 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1132260466.5959.7.camel@mindpipe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051117201204.GA32376@dspnet.fr.eu.org>

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On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 21:12 +0100, Olivier Galibert wrote:
> You call that great?  Multiple audio streams is such a basic feature
> it should work, period.  No if, no buts, and no obligatory library.
> Which doesn't preclude having it in userspace, mind you.  But it
> should never have been the _application_'s responsability.

Um, it really belongs in HARDWARE like it used to be, but vendors are
way too cheap for that now.  Keep in mind the whole mixing discussion
amounts to "how do we deal with these broken devices".

Lee



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From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [RFC] userland swsusp
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:47:46 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1132260466.5959.7.camel@mindpipe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051117201204.GA32376@dspnet.fr.eu.org>

On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 21:12 +0100, Olivier Galibert wrote:
> You call that great?  Multiple audio streams is such a basic feature
> it should work, period.  No if, no buts, and no obligatory library.
> Which doesn't preclude having it in userspace, mind you.  But it
> should never have been the _application_'s responsability.

Um, it really belongs in HARDWARE like it used to be, but vendors are
way too cheap for that now.  Keep in mind the whole mixing discussion
amounts to "how do we deal with these broken devices".

Lee



  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-11-17 20:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-16 16:10 [RFC] userland swsusp Gross, Mark
2005-11-16 16:10 ` [linux-pm] " Gross, Mark
2005-11-16 16:44 ` Greg KH
2005-11-16 16:44   ` [linux-pm] " Greg KH
2005-11-16 20:20   ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-11-16 22:05     ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 21:13       ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-11-16 22:41         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-11-16 22:41           ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-11-16 22:50         ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 22:50           ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2005-11-17 17:02       ` Olivier Galibert
2005-11-17 17:02         ` [linux-pm] " Olivier Galibert
2005-11-17 19:57         ` Lee Revell
2005-11-17 19:57           ` [linux-pm] " Lee Revell
2005-11-17 20:12           ` Olivier Galibert
2005-11-17 20:12             ` [linux-pm] " Olivier Galibert
2005-11-17 20:20             ` Lee Revell
2005-11-17 20:37               ` Dave Jones
2005-11-17 20:46                 ` Lee Revell
2005-11-17 20:46                   ` [linux-pm] " Lee Revell
2005-11-17 20:59                   ` Dave Jones
2005-11-17 20:59                     ` [linux-pm] " Dave Jones
2005-11-17 20:54                 ` Lee Revell
2005-11-17 21:01                   ` Dave Jones
2005-11-17 21:06                   ` Chris Wright
2005-11-17 21:14                     ` Lee Revell
2005-11-17 21:14                       ` [linux-pm] " Lee Revell
2005-11-17 21:18                       ` Chris Wright
2005-11-17 21:18                         ` [linux-pm] " Chris Wright
2005-11-17 21:45                         ` Diego Calleja
2005-11-17 21:45                           ` Diego Calleja
2005-11-17 21:09                 ` Matthew Garrett
2005-11-17 21:09                   ` Matthew Garrett
2005-11-17 21:16                   ` Lee Revell
2005-11-17 21:16                     ` [linux-pm] " Lee Revell
2005-11-17 20:47             ` Lee Revell [this message]
2005-11-17 20:47               ` Lee Revell
2005-11-17 20:50             ` software mixing [was Re: [linux-pm] [RFC] userland swsusp] Lee Revell
2005-11-16 22:10     ` [RFC] userland swsusp Greg KH
2005-11-16 22:10       ` [linux-pm] " Greg KH
2005-11-16 21:25       ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-11-16 21:25         ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2005-11-17  7:14         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-17  7:14           ` [linux-pm] " Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-16 19:10 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 19:10   ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2005-11-17 16:54   ` Olivier Galibert
2005-11-17 16:44     ` Greg KH
2005-11-17 17:03       ` Patrick Mochel
2005-11-17 17:03         ` [linux-pm] " Patrick Mochel
2005-11-17 17:31       ` Olivier Galibert
2005-11-17 20:15       ` Jacek Kawa
2005-11-17 20:15         ` [linux-pm] " Jacek Kawa
2005-11-17 21:56         ` Greg KH
2005-11-18 17:41           ` Jacek Kawa
2005-11-18 17:41             ` [linux-pm] " Jacek Kawa
2005-11-18 23:22     ` Pavel Machek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-11-17 18:50 Starikovskiy, Alexey Y
2005-11-16 16:00 Stefan Rompf
2005-11-16 19:07 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-17  7:19   ` Stefan Rompf
2005-11-17 10:01     ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-21  6:23   ` Rob Landley
2005-11-21 14:14     ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-15 21:29 Pavel Machek
2005-11-15 21:29 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-15 21:32 ` Greg KH
2005-11-15 22:25 ` [linux-pm] " Dave Jones
2005-11-15 23:32   ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-15 23:40     ` Dave Jones
2005-11-16  8:56       ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 21:41       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-11-16  4:35     ` [linux-pm] " Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2005-11-16  6:14       ` Greg KH
2005-11-16  6:00         ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-11-16 16:50           ` Greg KH
2005-11-16 19:57             ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-11-16 21:35               ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 21:13                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-11-16 22:47                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-23 10:16                     ` Lorenzo Colitti
2005-11-23 12:02                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-19  9:32           ` Rob Landley
2005-11-19 23:51             ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-18 19:36   ` Alan Cox
2005-11-18 21:18     ` [linux-pm] " Dave Jones
2005-11-18 21:20       ` Greg KH
2005-11-19 23:43       ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2005-11-20 21:48         ` Dave Jones
2005-11-20 22:09           ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2005-11-21 11:47             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-11-21 14:19               ` Pavel Machek

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