From: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@linuxmail.org>
To: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Freeze bdevs when freezing processes.
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:19:26 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1161728366.22729.28.camel@nigel.suspend2.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061024144446.GD11034@melbourne.sgi.com>
Hi David.
On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 00:44 +1000, David Chinner wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 12:36:53PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Monday, 23 October 2006 06:12, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> > > XFS can continue to submit I/O from a timer routine, even after
> > > freezeable kernel and userspace threads are frozen. This doesn't seem to
> > > be an issue for current swsusp code,
> >
> > So it doesn't look like we need the patch _now_.
> >
> > > but is definitely an issue for Suspend2, where the pages being written could
> > > be overwritten by Suspend2's atomic copy.
> >
> > And IMO that's a good reason why we shouldn't use RCU pages for storing the
> > image. XFS is one known example that breaks things if we do so and
> > there may be more such things that we don't know of. The fact that they
> > haven't appeared in testing so far doesn't mean they don't exist and
> > moreover some things like that may appear in the future.
>
> Could you please tell us which XFS bits are broken so we can get
> them fixed? The XFS daemons should all be checking if they are
> supposed to freeze (i.e. they call try_to_freeze() after they wake
> up due to timer expiry) so I thought they were doing the right
> thing.
The problem (in my experience) isn't the threads but a timer that
submits I/O even when the threads are frozen. It stops when the bdev is
frozen. The last report I've seen was before I added bdev freezing to
suspend2, which was 2.6.14, so you guys may have fixed it since then.
I can seek to get a trace if you like.
Regards,
Nigel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-10-24 23:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-10-23 4:12 [PATCH] Freeze bdevs when freezing processes Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-23 10:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-23 12:09 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-23 14:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-23 14:15 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-23 14:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-23 23:05 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-23 16:55 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-23 17:14 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-23 17:50 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-23 18:06 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-23 19:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-23 22:52 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-24 7:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 8:21 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-23 21:39 ` Matthew Garrett
2006-10-23 22:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 7:58 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-23 22:58 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-24 8:01 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-23 23:22 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-24 8:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 14:44 ` David Chinner
2006-10-24 15:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 16:20 ` Oleg Verych
2006-10-24 16:27 ` Oleg Verych
2006-10-24 17:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-10-25 8:05 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-24 16:33 ` David Chinner
2006-10-24 21:37 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-25 0:13 ` David Chinner
2006-10-25 8:10 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-25 8:38 ` David Chinner
2006-10-25 8:47 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-25 12:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-25 13:23 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-25 19:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-26 7:30 ` David Chinner
2006-10-26 8:18 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-26 8:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-26 8:57 ` David Chinner
2006-10-26 9:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-27 1:38 ` David Chinner
2006-10-27 14:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-29 17:35 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-29 23:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-29 23:46 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-26 9:18 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-26 9:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-25 8:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 17:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-10-24 19:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 21:26 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-24 21:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-10-24 21:43 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-24 22:19 ` Nigel Cunningham [this message]
2006-10-24 20:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 22:17 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-24 20:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
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