From: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>,
Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@linuxmail.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Freeze bdevs when freezing processes.
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 02:33:45 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061024163345.GG11034@melbourne.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200610241730.00488.rjw@sisk.pl>
On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 05:29:59PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Tuesday, 24 October 2006 16:44, David Chinner wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 12:36:53PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Monday, 23 October 2006 06:12, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> > > > XFS can continue to submit I/O from a timer routine, even after
> > > > freezeable kernel and userspace threads are frozen. This doesn't seem to
> > > > be an issue for current swsusp code,
> > >
> > > So it doesn't look like we need the patch _now_.
> > >
> > > > but is definitely an issue for Suspend2, where the pages being written could
> > > > be overwritten by Suspend2's atomic copy.
> > >
> > > And IMO that's a good reason why we shouldn't use RCU pages for storing the
> > > image. XFS is one known example that breaks things if we do so and
> > > there may be more such things that we don't know of. The fact that they
> > > haven't appeared in testing so far doesn't mean they don't exist and
> > > moreover some things like that may appear in the future.
> >
> > Could you please tell us which XFS bits are broken so we can get
> > them fixed? The XFS daemons should all be checking if they are
> > supposed to freeze (i.e. they call try_to_freeze() after they wake
> > up due to timer expiry) so I thought they were doing the right
> > thing.
> >
> > However, I have to say that I agree with freezing the filesystems
> > before suspend - at least XFS will be in a consistent state that can
> > be recovered from without corruption if your machine fails to
> > resume....
>
> Do you mean calling sys_sync() after the userspace has been frozen
> may not be sufficient?
In most cases it probably is, but sys_sync() doesn't provide any
guarantees that the filesystem is not being used or written to after
it completes. Given that every so often I hear about an XFS filesystem
that was corrupted by suspend, I don't think this is sufficient...
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
Principal Engineer
SGI Australian Software Group
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-10-24 16:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-10-23 4:12 [PATCH] Freeze bdevs when freezing processes Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-23 10:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-23 12:09 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-23 14:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-23 14:15 ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-23 14:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-23 23:05 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-23 16:55 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-23 17:14 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-23 17:50 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-23 18:06 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-23 19:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-23 22:52 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-24 7:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 8:21 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-23 21:39 ` Matthew Garrett
2006-10-23 22:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 7:58 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-23 22:58 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-24 8:01 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-23 23:22 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-24 8:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 14:44 ` David Chinner
2006-10-24 15:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 16:20 ` Oleg Verych
2006-10-24 16:27 ` Oleg Verych
2006-10-24 17:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-10-25 8:05 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-24 16:33 ` David Chinner [this message]
2006-10-24 21:37 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-25 0:13 ` David Chinner
2006-10-25 8:10 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-25 8:38 ` David Chinner
2006-10-25 8:47 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-25 12:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-25 13:23 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-25 19:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-26 7:30 ` David Chinner
2006-10-26 8:18 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-26 8:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-26 8:57 ` David Chinner
2006-10-26 9:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-27 1:38 ` David Chinner
2006-10-27 14:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-29 17:35 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-29 23:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-29 23:46 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-26 9:18 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-26 9:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-25 8:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 17:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-10-24 19:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 21:26 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-24 21:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-10-24 21:43 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-24 22:19 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-24 20:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-24 22:17 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-10-24 20:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
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