From: Hollis Blanchard <hollis@penguinppc.org>
To: The development of GRUB 2 <grub-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: multiboot2: make multiboot header optional
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:39:20 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1163626760.8873.128.camel@basalt> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200611152142.16440.okuji@enbug.org>
On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 22:42 +0200, Yoshinori K. Okuji wrote:
> On Wednesday 15 November 2006 19:42, Hollis Blanchard wrote:
> > > If the operating system kernel is stupid enough to require as special
> > > video mode the user should be aware of that and setup the bootloader
> > > so that it is in that mode before the kernel is started.
> >
> > The only information in the multiboot header is a) the load addresses
> > for a.out and "other" formats, and b) the VGA info.
> >
> > We could certainly drop the VGA info.
>
> No. The problem is that a kernel cannot initialize VESA in protected mode in
> some BIOSes. If you need more info, please dig into the archive of bug-grub.
OK, that is unfortunate.
> > I don't think it would be a big deal to drop a.out as well; I don't know
> > of any modern OS that uses these, and anyways kernel builds are special.
> > However (and I don't know how reasonable this is), Mac OS X's toolchain
> > will build only Mach-O binaries, so one would be unable to build a
> > kernel that GRUB could load. We could require a Mach-O loader in that
> > case, but I will admit that the "a.out hack" multiboot header fields
> > simplify this problem.
>
> Never drop the a.out kludge. This flexibility is one of the advantages in
> Multiboot. Note that GRUB itself uses this feature.
I still would like an improvement in the kernel->GRUB communication.
What about reusing the tags structure? For example:
multiboot_header:
.long MAGIC
.long MULTIBOOT_TAG_START [...]
.long MULTIBOOT_TAG_LOADADDR ; .long 12 ; .long _start
.long MULTIBOOT_TAG_ENTRYADDR ; .long 12 ; .long main
.long MULTIBOOT_TAG_END ; .long 8
etc?
A cpp macro or two could make that a little more convenient.
The fact that the START tag requires the number of tags and number of
bytes is inconvenient here. Do we really need that? Why not just:
while (tag->key != MULTIBOOT_TAG_END)
process_tag(tag);
-Hollis
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-11-15 22:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-11-14 22:58 multiboot2: make multiboot header optional Hollis Blanchard
2006-11-15 8:57 ` Johan Rydberg
2006-11-15 18:42 ` Hollis Blanchard
2006-11-15 20:42 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-11-15 21:39 ` Hollis Blanchard [this message]
2006-11-15 23:38 ` tgingold
2006-11-25 2:59 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-11-25 3:35 ` Hollis Blanchard
2006-11-25 4:25 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-12-02 16:18 ` Marco Gerards
2006-12-02 17:27 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-12-04 16:43 ` Hollis Blanchard
2006-12-05 20:23 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-12-07 23:07 ` multiboot2: using tags in the multiboot header Hollis Blanchard
2006-12-12 22:23 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-12-04 20:35 ` multiboot2: make multiboot header optional Marco Gerards
2006-12-05 19:09 ` Hollis Blanchard
2006-12-05 20:04 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-12-07 22:39 ` Hollis Blanchard
2006-12-12 22:08 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-12-13 4:18 ` Hollis Blanchard
2006-12-13 20:56 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-12-13 12:28 ` Marco Gerards
2006-12-02 16:15 ` Marco Gerards
2006-12-02 17:19 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-11-15 20:37 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-11-15 23:41 ` tgingold
2006-11-21 16:18 ` Hollis Blanchard
2006-11-21 17:35 ` tgingold
2006-11-25 3:05 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-11-25 3:00 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-11-25 6:12 ` Tristan Gingold
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