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From: "Yoshinori K. Okuji" <okuji@enbug.org>
To: The development of GRUB 2 <grub-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: multiboot2: make multiboot header optional
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 23:08:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200612122308.26778.okuji@enbug.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1165531179.8900.24.camel@basalt>

On Thursday 07 December 2006 23:39, Hollis Blanchard wrote:
> I thought we had two options: embedding tags, or ORing bits into an
> embedded long. When I suggested embedding tags, you told me it was too
> complicated so will cause developer errors. Have I misunderstood?

I meant that the complexity of using bitfields plus a fixed-size structure is 
identical to that of using tags. But I bet that it is more complicated to use 
tags _by hand_. For me, "complex" and "complicated" are quite different.

Besides how to make it look easier by predefined macros, please consider the 
spec itself. With bitfields and fixed-size fields, all you must remember is:

- What bits mean what

- How to order values passed to a boot loader

With tags, you need to remember:

- What tags mean what

- What tag size is expected to each tag

- What tags must be combined with a given tag

If you generate tags by programming, I don't think the use of tags is more 
complicated. It can be even easier for a parser. However, when specifying 
tags by hand, I cannot believe that it is as straightforward as using fields.

If you allow me to use a "big gun", I would tell you that most system 
programmers are used to fields, while they are not familar with writing tags.

Okuji



  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-12 22:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-14 22:58 multiboot2: make multiboot header optional Hollis Blanchard
2006-11-15  8:57 ` Johan Rydberg
2006-11-15 18:42   ` Hollis Blanchard
2006-11-15 20:42     ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-11-15 21:39       ` Hollis Blanchard
2006-11-15 23:38         ` tgingold
2006-11-25  2:59           ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-11-25  3:35             ` Hollis Blanchard
2006-11-25  4:25               ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-12-02 16:18                 ` Marco Gerards
2006-12-02 17:27                   ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-12-04 16:43                     ` Hollis Blanchard
2006-12-05 20:23                       ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-12-07 23:07                         ` multiboot2: using tags in the multiboot header Hollis Blanchard
2006-12-12 22:23                           ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-12-04 20:35                     ` multiboot2: make multiboot header optional Marco Gerards
2006-12-05 19:09                       ` Hollis Blanchard
2006-12-05 20:04                         ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-12-07 22:39                           ` Hollis Blanchard
2006-12-12 22:08                             ` Yoshinori K. Okuji [this message]
2006-12-13  4:18                               ` Hollis Blanchard
2006-12-13 20:56                                 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-12-13 12:28                         ` Marco Gerards
2006-12-02 16:15       ` Marco Gerards
2006-12-02 17:19         ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-11-15 20:37 ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-11-15 23:41   ` tgingold
2006-11-21 16:18     ` Hollis Blanchard
2006-11-21 17:35       ` tgingold
2006-11-25  3:05         ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-11-25  3:00     ` Yoshinori K. Okuji
2006-11-25  6:12       ` Tristan Gingold

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