From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
miklos@szeredi.hu, neilb@suse.de, dgc@sgi.com,
tomoki.sekiyama.qu@hitachi.com, nikita@clusterfs.com,
trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no, yingchao.zhou@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/10] mm: count writeback pages per BDI
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:08:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1177232932.7316.67.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070422001949.4d697fe5.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Sun, 2007-04-22 at 00:19 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> It could be that we never call test_clear_page_writeback() against
> !bdi_cap_writeback_dirty() pages anwyay. I can't think why we would, but
> the relationships there aren't very clear. Does "don't account for dirty
> memory" imply "doesn't ever do writeback"? One would need to check, and
> it's perhaps a bit fragile.
I did, thats how that test ended up there; I guess a comment would have
been a good thing, no? :-)
end_swap_bio_write() calls end_page_writeback(), and
swap_backing_dev_info has neither cap_writeback nor cap_account_dirty.
> It's worth checking though. Boy we're doing a lot of stuff in there
> nowadays.
>
> OT: it might be worth looking into batching this work up - the predominant
> caller should be mpage_end_io_write(), and he has a whole bunch of pages
> which are usually all from the same file, all contiguous. It's pretty
> inefficient to be handling that data one-page-at-a-time, and some
> significant speedups may be available.
Right, that might be a good spot to hook into, I'll have a look.
> Instead, everyone seems to think that variable pagecache page size is the
> only way of improving things. Shudder.
hehe, I guess you haven't looked at my concurrent pagecache patches yet
either :-)
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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
miklos@szeredi.hu, neilb@suse.de, dgc@sgi.com,
tomoki.sekiyama.qu@hitachi.com, nikita@clusterfs.com,
trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no, yingchao.zhou@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/10] mm: count writeback pages per BDI
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:08:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1177232932.7316.67.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070422001949.4d697fe5.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Sun, 2007-04-22 at 00:19 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> It could be that we never call test_clear_page_writeback() against
> !bdi_cap_writeback_dirty() pages anwyay. I can't think why we would, but
> the relationships there aren't very clear. Does "don't account for dirty
> memory" imply "doesn't ever do writeback"? One would need to check, and
> it's perhaps a bit fragile.
I did, thats how that test ended up there; I guess a comment would have
been a good thing, no? :-)
end_swap_bio_write() calls end_page_writeback(), and
swap_backing_dev_info has neither cap_writeback nor cap_account_dirty.
> It's worth checking though. Boy we're doing a lot of stuff in there
> nowadays.
>
> OT: it might be worth looking into batching this work up - the predominant
> caller should be mpage_end_io_write(), and he has a whole bunch of pages
> which are usually all from the same file, all contiguous. It's pretty
> inefficient to be handling that data one-page-at-a-time, and some
> significant speedups may be available.
Right, that might be a good spot to hook into, I'll have a look.
> Instead, everyone seems to think that variable pagecache page size is the
> only way of improving things. Shudder.
hehe, I guess you haven't looked at my concurrent pagecache patches yet
either :-)
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Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-20 15:51 [PATCH 00/10] per device dirty throttling -v5 Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:51 ` [PATCH 01/10] revert per-backing_dev-dirty-and-writeback-page-accounting Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:51 ` [PATCH 02/10] nfs: remove congestion_end() Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:51 ` [PATCH 03/10] lib: dampen the percpu_counter FBC_BATCH Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21 9:55 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 9:55 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 10:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21 10:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:51 ` [PATCH 04/10] lib: percpu_counter_mod64 Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21 9:55 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 9:55 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 11:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21 11:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21 19:21 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 19:21 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 19:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21 19:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:51 ` [PATCH 05/10] mm: bdi init hooks Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:52 ` [PATCH 06/10] mm: scalable bdi statistics counters Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:52 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm: count reclaimable pages per BDI Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21 9:55 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 9:55 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 11:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21 11:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:52 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm: count writeback " Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21 9:55 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 9:55 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 11:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21 11:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-22 7:19 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 7:19 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 9:08 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2007-04-22 9:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:52 ` [PATCH 09/10] mm: expose BDI statistics in sysfs Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21 9:55 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 9:55 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 11:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21 11:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:52 ` [PATCH 10/10] mm: per device dirty threshold Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-20 15:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21 9:55 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 9:55 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 10:38 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-21 10:38 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-21 10:54 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 10:54 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 20:25 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-21 20:25 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-23 6:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-23 6:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-23 6:29 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-23 6:29 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-23 6:39 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-23 6:39 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-21 12:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21 12:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21 12:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21 12:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21 19:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-21 19:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-23 15:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-23 15:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-23 15:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-23 15:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-23 16:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-23 16:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-04-22 7:26 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 7:26 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24 2:58 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-24 2:58 ` Neil Brown
2007-04-24 7:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-24 7:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-24 8:19 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-24 8:19 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-24 8:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-24 8:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-24 9:14 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-24 9:14 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-24 9:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-24 9:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-24 9:47 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-24 9:47 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-24 10:00 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24 10:00 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24 10:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-24 10:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-24 10:19 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-24 10:19 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-24 10:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-24 10:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-24 10:40 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24 10:40 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24 11:22 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-24 11:22 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-24 11:50 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24 11:50 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24 12:07 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-24 12:07 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-22 9:57 ` [PATCH 00/10] per device dirty throttling -v5 Andrew Morton
2007-04-22 9:57 ` Andrew Morton
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