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From: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@crca.org.au>,
	Matt Tolentino <matthew.e.tolentino@intel.com>,
	linux-pm@lists.osdl.org, Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, pavel@suse.cz,
	Mel Gorman <mel@skynet.ie>, Andy Whitcroft <apw@shadowen.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH] hibernation should work ok with memory hotplug
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:39:42 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1225813182.12673.587.camel@nimitz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200811041635.49932.rjw@sisk.pl>

On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:35 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Tuesday, 4 of November 2008, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 09:54 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > To handle this, I need to know two things:
> > > 1) what changes of the zones are possible due to memory hotplugging
> > > (i.e.    can they grow, shring, change boundaries etc.)
> > 
> > All of the above. 
> 
> OK
> 
> If I allocate a page frame corresponding to specific pfn, is it guaranteed to
> be associated with the same pfn in future?

Page allocation is different.  Since you hold a reference to a page, it
can not be removed until you release that reference.  That's why every
normal alloc_pages() user in the kernel doesn't have to worry about
memory hotplug.

> > Why walk zones instead of pgdats? 
> 
> This is a historical thing rather than anything else.  I think we could switch
> to pgdats, but that would require a code rewrite that's likely to introduce
> bugs, while our image-creating code is really well tested and doesn't change
> very often.

OK, fair enough.  I just wanted you to know that there are options other
than zones.

-- Dave

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From: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@crca.org.au>,
	Matt Tolentino <matthew.e.tolentino@intel.com>,
	linux-pm@lists.osdl.org, Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, pavel@suse.cz,
	Mel Gorman <mel@skynet.ie>, Andy Whitcroft <apw@shadowen.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH] hibernation should work ok with memory hotplug
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:39:42 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1225813182.12673.587.camel@nimitz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200811041635.49932.rjw@sisk.pl>

On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:35 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Tuesday, 4 of November 2008, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 09:54 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > To handle this, I need to know two things:
> > > 1) what changes of the zones are possible due to memory hotplugging
> > > (i.e.    can they grow, shring, change boundaries etc.)
> > 
> > All of the above. 
> 
> OK
> 
> If I allocate a page frame corresponding to specific pfn, is it guaranteed to
> be associated with the same pfn in future?

Page allocation is different.  Since you hold a reference to a page, it
can not be removed until you release that reference.  That's why every
normal alloc_pages() user in the kernel doesn't have to worry about
memory hotplug.

> > Why walk zones instead of pgdats? 
> 
> This is a historical thing rather than anything else.  I think we could switch
> to pgdats, but that would require a code rewrite that's likely to introduce
> bugs, while our image-creating code is really well tested and doesn't change
> very often.

OK, fair enough.  I just wanted you to know that there are options other
than zones.

-- Dave

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-04 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-29 10:59 [PATCH] hibernation should work ok with memory hotplug Pavel Machek
2008-10-29 12:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-03 20:51   ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-03 20:51     ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-03 21:18     ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-03 21:18       ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-03 21:21     ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-03 22:24       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-03 22:24         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-03 22:34         ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-03 22:34           ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-03 23:05           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-03 23:05             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-03 23:10             ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-03 23:10               ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-04  0:29               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-04  0:29                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-04  0:52                 ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-04  0:52                   ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-03 23:39           ` Andy Whitcroft
2008-11-03 23:39             ` Andy Whitcroft
2008-11-04  4:02           ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-04  4:02             ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-04  7:08             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-04  7:08               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-04  7:36               ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-04  7:36                 ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-04  8:54                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-04  8:54                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-04 15:21                   ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-04 15:21                     ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-04 15:35                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-04 15:35                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-04 15:39                       ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2008-11-04 15:39                         ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-04 16:34                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-04 16:34                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-04 16:59                           ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-05  0:38                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-05  0:38                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-05 11:08                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-05 11:08                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-06  0:14                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06  0:14                                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06  0:28                                   ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-06  0:28                                     ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-06  0:53                                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06  0:53                                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06  2:03                                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-06  2:03                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-06  2:13                                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06  2:13                                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06 14:47                                       ` Alan Stern
2008-11-06 14:47                                         ` Alan Stern
2008-11-07  1:09                                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-07  1:09                                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-07  1:09                                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06  8:47                                     ` Pavel Machek
2008-11-06  8:47                                       ` Pavel Machek
2008-11-06  1:17                                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06  1:17                                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06  1:43                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-06  1:43                                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-06  1:54                                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06  1:54                                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06  1:59                                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06  1:59                                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06  2:00                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-06  2:00                                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-06  2:07                                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06  2:07                                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06  3:12                                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06  3:12                                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06  3:28                                               ` Yasunori Goto
2008-11-06  3:28                                                 ` Yasunori Goto
2008-11-06  6:04                                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06  6:04                                                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06 14:48                                           ` Alan Stern
2008-11-06 14:48                                             ` Alan Stern
2008-11-06 14:48                                             ` Alan Stern
2008-11-06 20:46                                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-06 20:46                                               ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-06  9:12                                     ` Pavel Machek
2008-11-06  9:12                                       ` Pavel Machek
2008-11-06  9:12                                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06  9:12                                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2008-11-06  9:26                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-06  9:26                                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-06 14:43                                   ` Alan Stern
2008-11-06 14:43                                     ` Alan Stern
2008-11-06 14:43                                     ` Alan Stern
2008-11-04  7:09             ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-04  7:09               ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-04  7:30               ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-04  7:30                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-04  7:53                 ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-04  7:53                   ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-05  9:10                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-05  9:10                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-11-05 10:58                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-05 10:58                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-11-05 16:23                     ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-05 16:23                       ` Dave Hansen
2008-11-06 12:28     ` Pavel Machek
2008-11-06 12:28       ` Pavel Machek

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