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From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Jesper Krogh <jesper@krogh.cc>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.29-rc6
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:31:23 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1235687483.6811.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0902262255190.9135@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 23:06 +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, john stultz wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 22:35 +0100, Jesper Krogh wrote:
> > > > Also mind sending the full dmesg for both kernels?
> > > 
> > > http://krogh.cc/~jesper/dmesg-2.6.29-rc6.txt
> > > http://krogh.cc/~jesper/dmesg-2.6.26.8.txt
> > 
> > So one interesting difference:
> > 2.6.26.8:	TSC calibrated against PM_TIMER
> > 2.6.29-rc6:	Fast TSC calibration using PIT
> > 
> > Thomas, any thoughts as to why we might be calibrating off the PIT
> > instead of the PM_TIMER w/ 2.6.29?
> 
> Yup, because we introduced the Fast PIT calibration in 2.6.28.

Ah. Ok.

> Is the delta anything NTP might get upset about:
> 
> 2.6.26: time.c: Detected 2311.847 MHz processor.
> 2.6.29: Detected 2310.029 MHz processor.

I wouldn't think so.

Although, I'm recalling on some systems here right after we deploy them
we'll see something similar to the originally reported ntpd "time reset"
noise for a period of time while ntpd tries to find the right freq. For
some reason, I've noticed, having multiple servers in your ntp.conf
seems to increase NTP's difficulty at picking a time and converging. 

So this may be just the slight calibration change is confusing ntp or it
may be the NTP_INTERVAL_LENGTH change from awhile back which would cause
the drift value to change could be doing the same thing (although I
thought that landed in the 2.6.24 timeframe, but I may be forgetting).

I'll kick up some of my own testing between these two releases to see if
I can't find something similar.

Jesper: How long was the box up for when you noticed the ntpd noise?

Also what's the output of the following under the different kernels:
ntpdc -c peers
ntpdc -c kerninfo

thanks
-john


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-02-26 22:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-23  4:31 Linux 2.6.29-rc6 Linus Torvalds
2009-02-23 14:07 ` Linux 2.6.29-rc6 - Fix oops in i915_gem_retire_requests Karsten Wiese
2009-02-26 11:15 ` Linux 2.6.29-rc6 Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 17:17   ` MTD_CK804XROM warning (Was: Linux 2.6.29-rc6) Marcin Slusarz
2009-02-26 17:17     ` Marcin Slusarz
2009-02-26 17:53   ` Linux 2.6.29-rc6 Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 19:22     ` David Woodhouse
2009-02-26 19:22       ` David Woodhouse
2009-02-26 19:31     ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 19:31       ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 19:36       ` David Woodhouse
2009-02-26 19:36         ` David Woodhouse
2009-02-26 19:46         ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 19:46           ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 19:49           ` David Woodhouse
2009-02-26 19:49             ` David Woodhouse
2009-02-26 20:53         ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-02-26 20:53           ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-02-26 20:32       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 20:32         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 19:55 ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 20:33   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 20:43     ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 21:19       ` john stultz
2009-02-26 21:35         ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 21:46           ` john stultz
2009-02-26 21:54             ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-02-26 22:04               ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-27  6:30             ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-01 13:51             ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 21:49           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-01 15:04             ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 21:54           ` john stultz
2009-02-26 22:06             ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-02-26 22:24               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 22:31                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 22:31               ` john stultz [this message]
2009-02-26 22:40                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 22:59                   ` john stultz
2009-02-27  7:33                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-27 20:50                       ` john stultz
2009-02-27  6:47                 ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-27 20:35                   ` john stultz
2009-03-01 20:13                     ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-02  9:53                     ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-02 21:27                       ` john stultz
2009-03-03  6:04                         ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-03 19:53                           ` john stultz
2009-03-03 20:19                             ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-03 22:22                               ` john stultz
2009-03-04 15:30                                 ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-04 18:36                                   ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-04 18:57                                     ` John Stultz
2009-03-05  2:39                                       ` john stultz
2009-03-05  2:52                                         ` john stultz
2009-03-05  8:43                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-06  3:13                                             ` john stultz
2009-03-06  3:54                                               ` john stultz
2009-03-06 11:34                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-09 20:42                                           ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-10  4:26                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-10 11:29                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-10 19:42                                                 ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-10 22:22                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-15 19:53                                                     ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-16 18:40                                                       ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-15  1:19                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-15 15:44                                               ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-15 18:09                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-15 18:38                                                   ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-15 19:02                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-15 19:52                                                       ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-16 18:59                                                         ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-16 19:32                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-17  1:43                                                             ` john stultz
2009-03-17  8:14                                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-17 15:48                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-17 16:13                                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-17 16:28                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-17 16:40                                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-17 17:28                                                                   ` Olivier Galibert
2009-03-21  9:11                                                             ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-21 10:06                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-15 20:32                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-03 20:39                             ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-03 22:16                               ` john stultz
2009-03-04  5:36                                 ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-01 15:09   ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-01 15:44     ` Linux 2.6.29-rc6 (clocksource) Sitsofe Wheeler

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