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From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Jesper Krogh <jesper@krogh.cc>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.29-rc6
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:59:42 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1235689182.6811.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0902261434390.3111@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 14:40 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, john stultz wrote:
> > 
> > I'll kick up some of my own testing between these two releases to see if
> > I can't find something similar.
> 
> Since the PIT timer read is possibly hw-dependent, it might be that you 
> can't necessarily reproduce it on some random hardware.
> 
> How sensitive is ntpd to (stable) drift? IOW, if we get the calibration 
> wrong, the TSC should still hopefully be very _stable_, it's just that the 
> initial guesstimate for the frequency is off and ntp would have to correct 
> for that.

NTP can adjust the clock about +/-500ppm (so a 1000ppm range). Past that
it starts throwing errors.

Part of the issue is that if the drift value changes in between boots,
NTPd can take a while to settle down on the right freq. I suspect that's
whats happening here, and should the box be left alone for a few hours
(maybe overnight) NTPd will find the new drift correction the issue will
go away.

Thomas tripped over this a little while back when the
NTP_INTERVAL_LENGTH change landed, but I think that was prior to 2.6.26,
so its probably the calibration changes discussed, but I wanted to see
if there were any other slight changes that might be contributing to the
issue as well.

thanks
-john



  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-26 22:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-23  4:31 Linux 2.6.29-rc6 Linus Torvalds
2009-02-23 14:07 ` Linux 2.6.29-rc6 - Fix oops in i915_gem_retire_requests Karsten Wiese
2009-02-26 11:15 ` Linux 2.6.29-rc6 Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 17:17   ` MTD_CK804XROM warning (Was: Linux 2.6.29-rc6) Marcin Slusarz
2009-02-26 17:17     ` Marcin Slusarz
2009-02-26 17:53   ` Linux 2.6.29-rc6 Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 19:22     ` David Woodhouse
2009-02-26 19:22       ` David Woodhouse
2009-02-26 19:31     ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 19:31       ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 19:36       ` David Woodhouse
2009-02-26 19:36         ` David Woodhouse
2009-02-26 19:46         ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 19:46           ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 19:49           ` David Woodhouse
2009-02-26 19:49             ` David Woodhouse
2009-02-26 20:53         ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-02-26 20:53           ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-02-26 20:32       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 20:32         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 19:55 ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 20:33   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 20:43     ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 21:19       ` john stultz
2009-02-26 21:35         ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 21:46           ` john stultz
2009-02-26 21:54             ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-02-26 22:04               ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-27  6:30             ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-01 13:51             ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 21:49           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-01 15:04             ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-26 21:54           ` john stultz
2009-02-26 22:06             ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-02-26 22:24               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 22:31                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 22:31               ` john stultz
2009-02-26 22:40                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-26 22:59                   ` john stultz [this message]
2009-02-27  7:33                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-27 20:50                       ` john stultz
2009-02-27  6:47                 ` Jesper Krogh
2009-02-27 20:35                   ` john stultz
2009-03-01 20:13                     ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-02  9:53                     ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-02 21:27                       ` john stultz
2009-03-03  6:04                         ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-03 19:53                           ` john stultz
2009-03-03 20:19                             ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-03 22:22                               ` john stultz
2009-03-04 15:30                                 ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-04 18:36                                   ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-04 18:57                                     ` John Stultz
2009-03-05  2:39                                       ` john stultz
2009-03-05  2:52                                         ` john stultz
2009-03-05  8:43                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-06  3:13                                             ` john stultz
2009-03-06  3:54                                               ` john stultz
2009-03-06 11:34                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-09 20:42                                           ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-10  4:26                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-10 11:29                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-10 19:42                                                 ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-10 22:22                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-15 19:53                                                     ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-16 18:40                                                       ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-15  1:19                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-15 15:44                                               ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-15 18:09                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-15 18:38                                                   ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-15 19:02                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-15 19:52                                                       ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-16 18:59                                                         ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-16 19:32                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-17  1:43                                                             ` john stultz
2009-03-17  8:14                                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-17 15:48                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-17 16:13                                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-17 16:28                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-17 16:40                                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-17 17:28                                                                   ` Olivier Galibert
2009-03-21  9:11                                                             ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-21 10:06                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-15 20:32                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-03 20:39                             ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-03 22:16                               ` john stultz
2009-03-04  5:36                                 ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-01 15:09   ` Jesper Krogh
2009-03-01 15:44     ` Linux 2.6.29-rc6 (clocksource) Sitsofe Wheeler

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