From: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
To: Nicolas Williams <Nicolas.Williams@sun.com>
Cc: Jarrett Lu <Jarrett.Lu@sun.com>,
selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, labeled-nfs@linux-nfs.org,
nfs-discuss@opensolaris.org, nfsv4@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Labeled-nfs] [nfsv4] New MAC label support Internet Draft posted to IETF website
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:51:48 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1238431908.2484.42.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090327220923.GC9992@Sun.COM>
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 17:09 -0500, Nicolas Williams wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 09:22:42AM -0400, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 08:55 -0400, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> > > You can't represent Type Enforcement via MLS/BLP; TE is strictly more
> > > expressive than BLP, not the other way around. It also has no inherent
> > > notion of dominance; the access matrix is explicitly defined and may
> > > include intransitive relationships, which are required for integrity
> > > goals and guaranteed invocation.
>
> I thought that MLS compartment -> DTE type. Is that not the case? I
> realize that DTE does not have an inherent notion of dominance, but for
> _documents_ (as opposed to operating system- or application-specific
> files like /etc/shadow) there surely must be a way to establish
> dominance, no? That seems important to me.
No, there just needs to be a way to establish authorization. The
internal logic for determining whether data of a given label is allowed
to transit over a network interface of a given label is policy-specific
and shouldn't be limited to the dominance relation. It can just be
represented as a permission check on a label pair for a given object
class, and then the security policy logic can internally decide yes/no
on that permission based on any combination of the dominance relation,
the TE access matrix, or any other policy constraints.
--
Stephen Smalley
National Security Agency
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Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-22 19:16 New MAC label support Internet Draft posted to IETF website David P. Quigley
[not found] ` <54E18340-3542-4AB4-843E-E92A67B709A7@storspeed.com>
2009-01-23 17:47 ` [nfsv4] " Peter Staubach
2009-01-23 21:59 ` Glenn Faden
2009-01-23 19:07 ` [Labeled-nfs] " Kevin L. Smith
[not found] ` <33B70CB9-5260-419A-98CF-94847F829570@nokia.com>
2009-01-28 1:17 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-02-09 22:24 ` Peter Staubach
2009-02-11 23:47 ` David P. Quigley
2009-02-12 1:07 ` [Labeled-nfs] " James Morris
2009-02-12 15:36 ` [nfsv4] " Nicolas Williams
2009-02-12 20:00 ` David P. Quigley
2009-02-12 20:11 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-02-17 16:50 ` David P. Quigley
2009-02-17 17:00 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-02-12 19:45 ` David P. Quigley
2009-02-12 15:22 ` [nfsv4] " Nicolas Williams
2009-03-12 16:08 ` David P. Quigley
2009-03-12 17:20 ` Peter Staubach
2009-03-25 8:52 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-25 16:33 ` [nfsv4] " Nicolas Williams
2009-03-26 9:25 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-26 15:09 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-03-26 22:03 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-27 0:11 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-03-27 12:55 ` [Labeled-nfs] " Stephen Smalley
2009-03-27 13:22 ` Stephen Smalley
2009-03-27 17:03 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-27 17:26 ` [nfsv4] [Labeled-nfs] " Nicolas Williams
2009-03-27 18:56 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-27 22:04 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-03-30 17:37 ` Stephen Smalley
2009-03-30 18:30 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-30 20:01 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-03-30 20:03 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-03-30 21:14 ` Stephen Smalley
2009-03-31 5:59 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-31 18:28 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-04-01 3:33 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-04-01 6:58 ` [Labeled-nfs] [nfsv4] " James Morris
2009-04-01 8:09 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-04-01 9:49 ` James Morris
2009-04-01 17:50 ` [nfsv4] [Labeled-nfs] " Nicolas Williams
2009-04-02 23:43 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-31 3:07 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-03-31 14:47 ` Paul Moore
2009-04-01 7:46 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-04-01 16:46 ` Paul Moore
2009-04-02 15:24 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-04-02 22:35 ` Paul Moore
2009-04-03 4:42 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-04-03 18:08 ` Joy Latten
2009-04-03 1:21 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-04-07 21:30 ` Paul Moore
2009-03-31 18:34 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-04-01 3:42 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-03-28 3:33 ` [Labeled-nfs] [nfsv4] " Casey Schaufler
2009-03-28 5:16 ` Glenn Faden
2009-03-28 5:52 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-03-27 22:09 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-03-30 16:51 ` Stephen Smalley [this message]
2009-03-30 20:05 ` Nicolas Williams
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