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From: Jarrett Lu <Jarrett.Lu@sun.com>
To: Nicolas Williams <Nicolas.Williams@sun.com>
Cc: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	labeled-nfs@linux-nfs.org, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov,
	nfs-discuss@opensolaris.org, nfsv4@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [nfsv4] [Labeled-nfs] New MAC label support Internet Draft posted to IETF	website
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:43:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49D54D95.2080009@sun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090401175012.GF9992@Sun.COM>

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On 04/01/09 10:50, Nicolas Williams wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 08:33:07PM -0700, Jarrett Lu wrote:
>   
>> Nicolas Williams wrote:
>>     
>>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:59:15PM -0700, Jarrett Lu wrote:
>>>  
>>>       
>>>> That's certainly one option. We can say DOI + an opaque field is what we 
>>>> will add to NFSv4 protocol. Use the information as you see fit. Going 
>>>>    
>>>>         
>>> That's what David's I-D and what my RPCSEC_GSSv3 I-D both say now.
>>>  
>>>       
>> If we stop here, we don't have much of an interoperability story. I 
>>     
>
> I don't agree.  We'd have the same interop story everyone has today
> w.r.t. labeling: synchronization of policies is an out-of-band, manual
> (automatable) task; no standard protocol nor policy description
> language is specified.
>   

I don't mean to dwell on this. Requiring either systems being identical 
or relying on OOB information to know whether the opaque field can be 
used sounds weak on interoperability.  ;-)

I agree with you on rest of your comments. I still think more detailed 
study on different use cases are needed to understand whether the 
proposed solutions are suitable, sufficient, etc..

Jarrett


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  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-02 23:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-22 19:16 New MAC label support Internet Draft posted to IETF website David P. Quigley
     [not found] ` <54E18340-3542-4AB4-843E-E92A67B709A7@storspeed.com>
2009-01-23 17:47   ` [nfsv4] " Peter Staubach
2009-01-23 21:59     ` Glenn Faden
2009-01-23 19:07   ` [Labeled-nfs] " Kevin L. Smith
     [not found]   ` <33B70CB9-5260-419A-98CF-94847F829570@nokia.com>
2009-01-28  1:17     ` Jarrett Lu
2009-02-09 22:24 ` Peter Staubach
2009-02-11 23:47   ` David P. Quigley
2009-02-12  1:07     ` [Labeled-nfs] " James Morris
2009-02-12 15:36       ` [nfsv4] " Nicolas Williams
2009-02-12 20:00         ` David P. Quigley
2009-02-12 20:11           ` Nicolas Williams
2009-02-17 16:50             ` David P. Quigley
2009-02-17 17:00               ` Nicolas Williams
2009-02-12 19:45       ` David P. Quigley
2009-02-12 15:22   ` [nfsv4] " Nicolas Williams
2009-03-12 16:08   ` David P. Quigley
2009-03-12 17:20     ` Peter Staubach
2009-03-25  8:52 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-25 16:33   ` [nfsv4] " Nicolas Williams
2009-03-26  9:25     ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-26 15:09       ` Nicolas Williams
2009-03-26 22:03         ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-27  0:11           ` Nicolas Williams
2009-03-27 12:55             ` [Labeled-nfs] " Stephen Smalley
2009-03-27 13:22               ` Stephen Smalley
2009-03-27 17:03                 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-27 17:26                   ` [nfsv4] [Labeled-nfs] " Nicolas Williams
2009-03-27 18:56                     ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-27 22:04                       ` Nicolas Williams
2009-03-30 17:37                       ` Stephen Smalley
2009-03-30 18:30                         ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-30 20:01                           ` Nicolas Williams
2009-03-30 20:03                             ` Nicolas Williams
2009-03-30 21:14                           ` Stephen Smalley
2009-03-31  5:59                             ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-31 18:28                               ` Nicolas Williams
2009-04-01  3:33                                 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-04-01  6:58                                   ` [Labeled-nfs] [nfsv4] " James Morris
2009-04-01  8:09                                     ` Jarrett Lu
2009-04-01  9:49                                       ` James Morris
2009-04-01 17:50                                   ` [nfsv4] [Labeled-nfs] " Nicolas Williams
2009-04-02 23:43                                     ` Jarrett Lu [this message]
2009-03-31  3:07                           ` Casey Schaufler
2009-03-31 14:47                             ` Paul Moore
2009-04-01  7:46                               ` Jarrett Lu
2009-04-01 16:46                                 ` Paul Moore
2009-04-02 15:24                                   ` Nicolas Williams
2009-04-02 22:35                                     ` Paul Moore
2009-04-03  4:42                                       ` Nicolas Williams
2009-04-03 18:08                                       ` Joy Latten
2009-04-03  1:21                                   ` Jarrett Lu
2009-04-07 21:30                                     ` Paul Moore
2009-03-31 18:34                             ` Nicolas Williams
2009-04-01  3:42                               ` Casey Schaufler
2009-03-28  3:33                   ` [Labeled-nfs] [nfsv4] " Casey Schaufler
2009-03-28  5:16                     ` Glenn Faden
2009-03-28  5:52                       ` Casey Schaufler
2009-03-27 22:09                 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-03-30 16:51                   ` Stephen Smalley
2009-03-30 20:05                     ` Nicolas Williams

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