From: Nicolas Williams <Nicolas.Williams@sun.com>
To: Jarrett Lu <Jarrett.Lu@sun.com>
Cc: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
labeled-nfs@linux-nfs.org, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov,
nfs-discuss@opensolaris.org, nfsv4@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [nfsv4] [Labeled-nfs] New MAC label support Internet Draft posted to IETF website
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:01:21 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090330200121.GD9992@Sun.COM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49D10FC1.3000103@sun.com>
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:30:25AM -0700, Jarrett Lu wrote:
> On 03/30/09 10:37, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> >I'm not sure if this conflicts with what you are saying, but the DOI
> >should merely identify the (externally) agreed-upon network label space
> >for the data to be shared between the communicating systems. [...]
Right now that's the best we can do, and CALIPSO does nothing to improve
this situation.
> As Casey and others pointed out, a lot more information about a
> communicating peer is needed in order to be able to translate a label
> and other security attributes. People have tried this in 90's.
> Apparently the solution is no longer in use today. Maybe we can do
> something better 15 years later. The first step is to figure out how
> much information is needed and then look into how to get this info
> across securely. GSS_SEC may be able to help us. To make NFSv4 work,
> only TCP is needed. So peer information is needed per session vs. per
> packet, I believe. Evidently, there is more work to do in figuring this
> all out.
I believe that certificate extensions and Kerberos V authorization-data
could be used to ensure that the client and server both know the correct
"label encodings" for their shared DOIs.
To specify such a thing would be easy: allocate cert ext OID (for PKIX
certs) and authz-data ID (for Kebreros V) and specify the contents of
the extension, which could be the DER encoding of:
DOI-SPEC ::= SEQUENCE {
doi INTEGER (0..MAX),
label-encodings-uri UTF8STRING -- contraint: MUST be a URI
}
DOI-SPECS ::= SEQUENCE SIZE (1..MAX) OF DOI-SPEC;
I.e., a sequence of {DOI number, label encodings URI}.
Then define the format of the document referenced by the label encodings
URI. That format should cover MLS and DTE DOI types.
Nico
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Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-22 19:16 New MAC label support Internet Draft posted to IETF website David P. Quigley
[not found] ` <54E18340-3542-4AB4-843E-E92A67B709A7@storspeed.com>
2009-01-23 17:47 ` [nfsv4] " Peter Staubach
2009-01-23 21:59 ` Glenn Faden
2009-01-23 19:07 ` [Labeled-nfs] " Kevin L. Smith
[not found] ` <33B70CB9-5260-419A-98CF-94847F829570@nokia.com>
2009-01-28 1:17 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-02-09 22:24 ` Peter Staubach
2009-02-11 23:47 ` David P. Quigley
2009-02-12 1:07 ` [Labeled-nfs] " James Morris
2009-02-12 15:36 ` [nfsv4] " Nicolas Williams
2009-02-12 20:00 ` David P. Quigley
2009-02-12 20:11 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-02-17 16:50 ` David P. Quigley
2009-02-17 17:00 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-02-12 19:45 ` David P. Quigley
2009-02-12 15:22 ` [nfsv4] " Nicolas Williams
2009-03-12 16:08 ` David P. Quigley
2009-03-12 17:20 ` Peter Staubach
2009-03-25 8:52 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-25 16:33 ` [nfsv4] " Nicolas Williams
2009-03-26 9:25 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-26 15:09 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-03-26 22:03 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-27 0:11 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-03-27 12:55 ` [Labeled-nfs] " Stephen Smalley
2009-03-27 13:22 ` Stephen Smalley
2009-03-27 17:03 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-27 17:26 ` [nfsv4] [Labeled-nfs] " Nicolas Williams
2009-03-27 18:56 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-27 22:04 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-03-30 17:37 ` Stephen Smalley
2009-03-30 18:30 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-30 20:01 ` Nicolas Williams [this message]
2009-03-30 20:03 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-03-30 21:14 ` Stephen Smalley
2009-03-31 5:59 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-31 18:28 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-04-01 3:33 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-04-01 6:58 ` [Labeled-nfs] [nfsv4] " James Morris
2009-04-01 8:09 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-04-01 9:49 ` James Morris
2009-04-01 17:50 ` [nfsv4] [Labeled-nfs] " Nicolas Williams
2009-04-02 23:43 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-31 3:07 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-03-31 14:47 ` Paul Moore
2009-04-01 7:46 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-04-01 16:46 ` Paul Moore
2009-04-02 15:24 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-04-02 22:35 ` Paul Moore
2009-04-03 4:42 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-04-03 18:08 ` Joy Latten
2009-04-03 1:21 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-04-07 21:30 ` Paul Moore
2009-03-31 18:34 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-04-01 3:42 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-03-28 3:33 ` [Labeled-nfs] [nfsv4] " Casey Schaufler
2009-03-28 5:16 ` Glenn Faden
2009-03-28 5:52 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-03-27 22:09 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-03-30 16:51 ` Stephen Smalley
2009-03-30 20:05 ` Nicolas Williams
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