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From: Nicolas Williams <Nicolas.Williams@sun.com>
To: Jarrett Lu <Jarrett.Lu@sun.com>
Cc: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	labeled-nfs@linux-nfs.org, nfs-discuss@opensolaris.org,
	selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, nfsv4@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [nfsv4] [Labeled-nfs] New MAC label support Internet Draft posted to IETF	website
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:26:32 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090327172632.GA9992@Sun.COM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49CD06E7.6030802@sun.com>

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:03:35AM -0700, Jarrett Lu wrote:
> I agree with your statements on TE vs. MLS/BLP. The problem we try to 
> solve is whether a DOI field + an opaque string is sufficient to solve 
> the interoperability problem. My opinion is that it's insufficient as it 
> doesn't take the "how to interpret MAC attribute agreement among all 
> communicating peers" into account. The current proposal seems to assume 
> when a node sees a DOI value of 5, it knows how to interpret the opaque 
> field. This may not be true. In MLS, one also needs to know which agreed 
> upon label encoding file to use in order to interpret label in the 
> opaque filed. I believe the same is true for TE -- one needs to know the 
> security policy being used in order to correctly interpret security 
> context string in the opaque field. DOI + opaque field doesn't say which 
> label encoding scheme or which security policy.

What would you add or remove on the wire to solve this problem?  My
guess: a registry of per-DOI rules, like CALIPSO does.  I don't think a
registry of DOI rules is strictly necessary for NFS (though I can see
how it helps in the case of IP), but I certainly don't object.

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-27 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-22 19:16 New MAC label support Internet Draft posted to IETF website David P. Quigley
     [not found] ` <54E18340-3542-4AB4-843E-E92A67B709A7@storspeed.com>
2009-01-23 17:47   ` [nfsv4] " Peter Staubach
2009-01-23 21:59     ` Glenn Faden
2009-01-23 19:07   ` [Labeled-nfs] " Kevin L. Smith
     [not found]   ` <33B70CB9-5260-419A-98CF-94847F829570@nokia.com>
2009-01-28  1:17     ` Jarrett Lu
2009-02-09 22:24 ` Peter Staubach
2009-02-11 23:47   ` David P. Quigley
2009-02-12  1:07     ` [Labeled-nfs] " James Morris
2009-02-12 15:36       ` [nfsv4] " Nicolas Williams
2009-02-12 20:00         ` David P. Quigley
2009-02-12 20:11           ` Nicolas Williams
2009-02-17 16:50             ` David P. Quigley
2009-02-17 17:00               ` Nicolas Williams
2009-02-12 19:45       ` David P. Quigley
2009-02-12 15:22   ` [nfsv4] " Nicolas Williams
2009-03-12 16:08   ` David P. Quigley
2009-03-12 17:20     ` Peter Staubach
2009-03-25  8:52 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-25 16:33   ` [nfsv4] " Nicolas Williams
2009-03-26  9:25     ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-26 15:09       ` Nicolas Williams
2009-03-26 22:03         ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-27  0:11           ` Nicolas Williams
2009-03-27 12:55             ` [Labeled-nfs] " Stephen Smalley
2009-03-27 13:22               ` Stephen Smalley
2009-03-27 17:03                 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-27 17:26                   ` Nicolas Williams [this message]
2009-03-27 18:56                     ` [nfsv4] [Labeled-nfs] " Jarrett Lu
2009-03-27 22:04                       ` Nicolas Williams
2009-03-30 17:37                       ` Stephen Smalley
2009-03-30 18:30                         ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-30 20:01                           ` Nicolas Williams
2009-03-30 20:03                             ` Nicolas Williams
2009-03-30 21:14                           ` Stephen Smalley
2009-03-31  5:59                             ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-31 18:28                               ` Nicolas Williams
2009-04-01  3:33                                 ` Jarrett Lu
2009-04-01  6:58                                   ` [Labeled-nfs] [nfsv4] " James Morris
2009-04-01  8:09                                     ` Jarrett Lu
2009-04-01  9:49                                       ` James Morris
2009-04-01 17:50                                   ` [nfsv4] [Labeled-nfs] " Nicolas Williams
2009-04-02 23:43                                     ` Jarrett Lu
2009-03-31  3:07                           ` Casey Schaufler
2009-03-31 14:47                             ` Paul Moore
2009-04-01  7:46                               ` Jarrett Lu
2009-04-01 16:46                                 ` Paul Moore
2009-04-02 15:24                                   ` Nicolas Williams
2009-04-02 22:35                                     ` Paul Moore
2009-04-03  4:42                                       ` Nicolas Williams
2009-04-03 18:08                                       ` Joy Latten
2009-04-03  1:21                                   ` Jarrett Lu
2009-04-07 21:30                                     ` Paul Moore
2009-03-31 18:34                             ` Nicolas Williams
2009-04-01  3:42                               ` Casey Schaufler
2009-03-28  3:33                   ` [Labeled-nfs] [nfsv4] " Casey Schaufler
2009-03-28  5:16                     ` Glenn Faden
2009-03-28  5:52                       ` Casey Schaufler
2009-03-27 22:09                 ` Nicolas Williams
2009-03-30 16:51                   ` Stephen Smalley
2009-03-30 20:05                     ` Nicolas Williams

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