From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
Linus <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-next@vger.kernel.org,
paulus@samba.org, ppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: linux-next: origin tree build failure
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:57:15 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1244800635.7172.114.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1244799786.6691.1133.camel@laptop>
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 11:43 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 19:33 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > We should at least -try- to follow the
> > process we've defined, don't you think ?
>
> So you're saying -next should include whole new subsystems even though
> its not clear they will be merged?
Maybe yes. And if there's some debate as to whether it should be merged
or not, maybe Linus should make the decision, let -next carry it for a
few days to iron out those problems, and -then- merge it.
> That'll invariably create the opposite case where a tree doesn't get
> pulled and breaks bits due to its absence.
>
> -next does a great job of sorting the existing subsystem trees, but I
> don't think its Stephens job to decide if things will get merged.
No, it's not, but then, maybe Linus could play the game and -tell- us
whether he intend to merge or not at least a few days in advance :-)
> Therefore when things are in limbo (there was no definite ACK from Linus
> on perf counters) both inclusion and exclusion from -next can lead to
> trouble.
Well, Linus did ACK by merging :-) So he should have been able to give
that ack a few days in advance too..
Cheers,
Ben.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
ppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-next@vger.kernel.org,
paulus@samba.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Linus <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: linux-next: origin tree build failure
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:57:15 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1244800635.7172.114.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1244799786.6691.1133.camel@laptop>
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 11:43 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 19:33 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > We should at least -try- to follow the
> > process we've defined, don't you think ?
>
> So you're saying -next should include whole new subsystems even though
> its not clear they will be merged?
Maybe yes. And if there's some debate as to whether it should be merged
or not, maybe Linus should make the decision, let -next carry it for a
few days to iron out those problems, and -then- merge it.
> That'll invariably create the opposite case where a tree doesn't get
> pulled and breaks bits due to its absence.
>
> -next does a great job of sorting the existing subsystem trees, but I
> don't think its Stephens job to decide if things will get merged.
No, it's not, but then, maybe Linus could play the game and -tell- us
whether he intend to merge or not at least a few days in advance :-)
> Therefore when things are in limbo (there was no definite ACK from Linus
> on perf counters) both inclusion and exclusion from -next can lead to
> trouble.
Well, Linus did ACK by merging :-) So he should have been able to give
that ack a few days in advance too..
Cheers,
Ben.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-12 9:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 153+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-12 0:24 linux-next: origin tree build failure Stephen Rothwell
2009-06-12 0:24 ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-06-12 0:53 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-06-12 0:53 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-06-12 1:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 1:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 9:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 9:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 9:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 9:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 9:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-12 9:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-12 9:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 9:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 9:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2009-06-12 9:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 12:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 12:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 13:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 13:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 13:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 13:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 13:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 13:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 14:06 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 14:06 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 14:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 14:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 14:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 14:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-13 5:06 ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-06-13 5:06 ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-06-13 5:06 ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-06-12 13:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 13:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 13:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 13:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 14:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 14:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-12 14:19 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-12 14:19 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-13 4:54 ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-06-13 4:54 ` Stephen Rothwell
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-01-12 1:14 Stephen Rothwell
2010-01-12 1:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-01-12 2:32 ` Stephen Rothwell
2010-01-12 2:39 ` Stephen Rothwell
2010-01-13 0:14 ` Phillip Lougher
2010-01-13 2:55 ` Stephen Rothwell
2010-01-11 23:58 Stephen Rothwell
2010-01-11 23:58 ` Stephen Rothwell
2010-01-11 23:58 ` Stephen Rothwell
2010-01-12 0:29 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-01-12 0:29 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-01-12 12:38 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-01-12 12:38 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2009-12-24 0:54 Stephen Rothwell
2009-12-15 5:41 Stephen Rothwell
2009-12-15 5:41 ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-12-15 8:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-15 13:01 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2009-12-15 13:01 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2009-12-15 14:53 ` Mark Brown
2009-12-15 17:27 ` Tony Lindgren
2009-12-15 22:45 ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-12-15 23:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-15 23:37 ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-12-16 9:30 ` Samuel Ortiz
2009-12-09 23:57 Stephen Rothwell
2009-11-30 23:10 Stephen Rothwell
2009-11-12 0:23 Stephen Rothwell
2009-10-09 7:50 Stephen Rothwell
2009-07-09 0:28 Stephen Rothwell
2009-06-25 1:13 Stephen Rothwell
2009-06-25 3:24 ` Baruch Siach
2009-06-25 4:12 ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-23 6:22 Stephen Rothwell
2009-06-23 10:13 ` Mark Brown
2009-06-19 6:30 Stephen Rothwell
2009-06-19 6:30 ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-06-12 0:46 Stephen Rothwell
2009-04-14 7:34 Stephen Rothwell
2009-04-14 7:58 ` Jesper Nilsson
2009-04-14 4:43 Stephen Rothwell
2009-04-14 8:57 ` David Miller
2009-04-14 9:20 ` Heiko Carstens
2009-04-14 9:08 ` David Miller
2009-04-14 10:26 ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-04-08 3:28 Stephen Rothwell
2009-04-08 0:10 Stephen Rothwell
2009-03-30 0:55 Stephen Rothwell
2009-01-11 23:48 Stephen Rothwell
2009-01-11 23:48 ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-01-12 0:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-01-12 0:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-01-12 0:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-01-12 9:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-12 9:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-12 9:24 ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-01-12 9:24 ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-01-12 9:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-12 9:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-13 16:31 ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-01-13 16:31 ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-01-12 9:49 ` Michael Ellerman
2009-01-12 9:49 ` Michael Ellerman
2009-01-12 10:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-12 10:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-12 10:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-12 10:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-12 10:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-01-12 0:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-01-12 0:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-01-11 23:48 Stephen Rothwell
2009-01-11 23:48 Stephen Rothwell
2009-01-11 23:48 Stephen Rothwell
2008-12-29 0:43 Stephen Rothwell
2008-12-29 3:36 ` Roland Dreier
2008-12-29 3:44 ` Roland Dreier
2008-12-29 9:58 ` Aleksey Senin
2008-12-29 16:13 ` Roland Dreier
2008-12-29 16:52 ` Aleksey Senin
2008-12-29 20:18 ` Roland Dreier
2008-12-29 21:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-12-29 21:35 ` Roland Dreier
2008-12-29 8:48 ` Aleksey Senin
2008-12-30 7:38 ` Roland Dreier
2008-12-30 8:30 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-12-29 0:00 Stephen Rothwell
2008-12-29 0:00 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-12-28 23:51 Stephen Rothwell
2008-12-28 23:38 Stephen Rothwell
2008-12-28 23:38 ` Stephen Rothwell
2008-12-29 0:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-16 0:35 Stephen Rothwell
2008-10-16 4:57 ` David Miller
2008-10-16 0:31 Stephen Rothwell
2008-10-16 12:58 ` Ralf Baechle
2008-10-14 22:59 Stephen Rothwell
2008-10-14 23:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-14 23:52 ` David Miller
2008-10-15 0:05 ` Mark Brown
2008-10-15 0:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-14 23:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-10-15 9:02 ` Alan Cox
2008-10-15 9:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-10-15 11:01 ` Mark Brown
2008-08-26 0:37 Stephen Rothwell
2008-08-18 0:01 Stephen Rothwell
2008-08-18 12:55 ` David Howells
2008-08-18 14:03 ` James Morris
2008-07-25 0:30 Stephen Rothwell
2008-07-25 0:30 ` Stephen Rothwell
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