From: Huaxu Wan <huaxu.wan@linux.intel.com>
To: Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>,
Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>
Cc: "Wan, Huaxu" <huaxu.wan@intel.com>,
"'linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"'lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org'" <lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org>,
"'khali@linux-fr.org'" <khali@linux-fr.org>
Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 01:42:36 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1283132556.2159.9.camel@owl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1280132188.22558.0.camel@maxim-laptop>
CC Fenghua.
Could you found a Laptop with T5450 at hand? I can't found anywhere.
-Huaxu
On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 11:16 +0300, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-06-13 at 10:27 +0800, Wan, Huaxu wrote:
> > >On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 23:10 +0300, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > >> On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 19:34 +0300, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > >> > On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 09:39 +0800, Huaxu Wan wrote:
> > >> > > On 08:39 Sat 29 May, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > >> > > > On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 17:59 +0800, Huaxu Wan wrote:
> > >> > > > > The MSR IA32_TEMPERATURE_TARGET contains the TjMax
> > >value in the newer
> > >> > > > > processers.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I know that TjMax on my system is 85, and now coretemp
> > >reports wrong
> > >> > > > temperatures.
> > >> > > > First of all BIOS using stupid tricks actualy reports
> > >CPU temperature
> > >> > > > through ACPI, and assuming it was correct TjMax is 85.
> > >> > > > It also shuts down the system if I 'lie' to it that
> > >cpu temperature is
> > >> > > > 85C.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > From the list at [1], the TjMax(Tjunction) of T5450 is
> > >100C. Does anyone
> > >> > > here can make a double check?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > [1]
> > >http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id0787&processor=T5450&spec
> > >-codes=SLA4F
> > >> >
> > >> > This is very interesting.
> > >> >
> > >> > With TjMax 85C, the CPUs idle temperature is reported at
> > >around 45~50C
> > >> > GPU temperature that is around 50C
> > >> >
> > >> > BIOS also reports 45~50C.
> > >> >
> > >> > BIOS hooks an SMI to CPU thermal report, and stores the
> > >temperature it
> > >> > read in ram, then ACPI code reads it, reports and passes to the EC
> > >> > (embedded controller).
> > >> >
> > >> > If I write myself 85 to embedded controller, systems shuts down.
> > >> > (values less that 85, eg 84 don't shut system).
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Another clue is that right after resume from ram, after long delay
> > >> (~hour) the displayed temperature with TjMax 85 is 33C. Since room
> > >> temperature here is around 27C, this seems more plausible that
> > >> 33 + 15 = 48C
> > >
> > >
> > >Any update?
> >
> > I'm occupied by other things, sorry for slow response. But, as said in a
> > spec, I can't remember which one now, there are too many, the relative
> > value read from DTS is accurate approaching to TjMax. The accuracy
> > deteriorates to +-10C at 50C. Any DTS reading below 50C should be
> > considered to indicate only a temperature below 50C and not a specific
> > temperature.
> >
> > So, the value around 50C can't be taken as real chip temperature. I
> > would like this issue could be confirmed by more users to avoid it as a
> > particular case. At the meantime, I still looking for a laptop with T5450,
> > this may take some time.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Huaxu
>
> Any update?
>
> Best regards,
> Maxim Levitsky
>
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From: Huaxu Wan <huaxu.wan@linux.intel.com>
To: Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>,
Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>
Cc: "Wan, Huaxu" <huaxu.wan@intel.com>,
"'linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org'" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"'lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org'" <lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org>,
"'khali@linux-fr.org'" <khali@linux-fr.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from MSR
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 09:42:36 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1283132556.2159.9.camel@owl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1280132188.22558.0.camel@maxim-laptop>
CC Fenghua.
Could you found a Laptop with T5450 at hand? I can't found anywhere.
-Huaxu
On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 11:16 +0300, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-06-13 at 10:27 +0800, Wan, Huaxu wrote:
> > >On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 23:10 +0300, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > >> On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 19:34 +0300, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > >> > On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 09:39 +0800, Huaxu Wan wrote:
> > >> > > On 08:39 Sat 29 May, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > >> > > > On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 17:59 +0800, Huaxu Wan wrote:
> > >> > > > > The MSR IA32_TEMPERATURE_TARGET contains the TjMax
> > >value in the newer
> > >> > > > > processers.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I know that TjMax on my system is 85, and now coretemp
> > >reports wrong
> > >> > > > temperatures.
> > >> > > > First of all BIOS using stupid tricks actualy reports
> > >CPU temperature
> > >> > > > through ACPI, and assuming it was correct TjMax is 85.
> > >> > > > It also shuts down the system if I 'lie' to it that
> > >cpu temperature is
> > >> > > > 85C.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > From the list at [1], the TjMax(Tjunction) of T5450 is
> > >100C. Does anyone
> > >> > > here can make a double check?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > [1]
> > >http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=30787&processor=T5450&spec
> > >-codes=SLA4F
> > >> >
> > >> > This is very interesting.
> > >> >
> > >> > With TjMax 85C, the CPUs idle temperature is reported at
> > >around 45~50C
> > >> > GPU temperature that is around 50C
> > >> >
> > >> > BIOS also reports 45~50C.
> > >> >
> > >> > BIOS hooks an SMI to CPU thermal report, and stores the
> > >temperature it
> > >> > read in ram, then ACPI code reads it, reports and passes to the EC
> > >> > (embedded controller).
> > >> >
> > >> > If I write myself 85 to embedded controller, systems shuts down.
> > >> > (values less that 85, eg 84 don't shut system).
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Another clue is that right after resume from ram, after long delay
> > >> (~hour) the displayed temperature with TjMax 85 is 33C. Since room
> > >> temperature here is around 27C, this seems more plausible that
> > >> 33 + 15 = 48C
> > >
> > >
> > >Any update?
> >
> > I'm occupied by other things, sorry for slow response. But, as said in a
> > spec, I can't remember which one now, there are too many, the relative
> > value read from DTS is accurate approaching to TjMax. The accuracy
> > deteriorates to +-10C at 50C. Any DTS reading below 50C should be
> > considered to indicate only a temperature below 50C and not a specific
> > temperature.
> >
> > So, the value around 50C can't be taken as real chip temperature. I
> > would like this issue could be confirmed by more users to avoid it as a
> > particular case. At the meantime, I still looking for a laptop with T5450,
> > this may take some time.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Huaxu
>
> Any update?
>
> Best regards,
> Maxim Levitsky
>
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Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-05 15:38 [lm-sensors] [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from MSR Huaxu Wan
2010-03-05 16:19 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from Luca Tettamanti
2010-03-08 14:44 ` Huaxu Wan
2010-05-07 9:59 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from MSR Huaxu Wan
2010-05-07 9:59 ` Huaxu Wan
2010-05-07 13:29 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from Carsten Emde
2010-05-07 13:29 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from MSR Carsten Emde
2010-05-10 3:09 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from Huaxu Wan
2010-05-10 3:09 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from MSR Huaxu Wan
2010-05-10 3:50 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 2/2 V2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from Huaxu Wan
2010-05-10 3:50 ` [PATCH 2/2 V2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from MSR Huaxu Wan
2010-05-29 5:39 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from Maxim Levitsky
2010-05-29 5:39 ` [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from MSR Maxim Levitsky
2010-05-30 14:43 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from Maxim Levitsky
2010-05-30 14:43 ` [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from MSR Maxim Levitsky
2010-05-31 1:39 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from Huaxu Wan
2010-05-31 1:39 ` [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from MSR Huaxu Wan
2010-06-02 16:34 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-02 16:34 ` [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from MSR Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-02 20:10 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-02 20:10 ` [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from MSR Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-12 13:03 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-12 13:03 ` [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from MSR Maxim Levitsky
2010-06-13 2:27 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from Wan, Huaxu
2010-06-13 2:27 ` [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from MSR Wan, Huaxu
2010-07-26 8:16 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from Maxim Levitsky
2010-07-26 8:16 ` [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from MSR Maxim Levitsky
2010-08-30 1:42 ` Huaxu Wan [this message]
2010-08-30 1:42 ` Huaxu Wan
2010-08-31 21:01 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from Fenghua Yu
2010-08-31 21:01 ` [PATCH 2/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Get TjMax value from MSR Fenghua Yu
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-03-05 15:28 [lm-sensors] [PATCH 1/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Detect the thermal Huaxu Wan
2010-05-07 9:54 ` Huaxu Wan
2010-05-07 9:54 ` [PATCH 1/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Detect the thermal sensors by CPUID Huaxu Wan
2010-05-07 12:43 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 1/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Detect the thermal Jean Delvare
2010-05-07 12:43 ` [PATCH 1/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Detect the thermal sensors by CPUID Jean Delvare
2010-05-07 13:21 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 1/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Detect the thermal Carsten Emde
2010-05-07 13:21 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 1/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Detect the thermal sensors by CPUID Carsten Emde
2010-05-10 2:35 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 1/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Detect the thermal Huaxu Wan
2010-05-10 2:35 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 1/2] hwmon: (coretemp) Detect the thermal sensors by CPUID Huaxu Wan
2010-05-10 3:35 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 1/2 V2] hwmon: (coretemp) Detect the thermal Huaxu Wan
2010-05-10 3:35 ` [PATCH 1/2 V2] hwmon: (coretemp) Detect the thermal sensors by CPUID Huaxu Wan
2010-05-10 12:45 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 1/2 V2] hwmon: (coretemp) Detect the Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-05-10 12:45 ` [PATCH 1/2 V2] hwmon: (coretemp) Detect the thermal sensors by CPUID Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-05-11 3:41 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 1/2 V2] hwmon: (coretemp) Detect the Huaxu Wan
2010-05-11 3:41 ` [PATCH 1/2 V2] hwmon: (coretemp) Detect the thermal sensors by CPUID Huaxu Wan
2010-05-11 7:55 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 1/2 V3] hwmon: (coretemp) Detect the thermal Huaxu Wan
2010-05-11 8:01 ` [PATCH 1/2 V3] hwmon: (coretemp) Detect the thermal sensors by CPUID Huaxu Wan
2010-05-11 21:45 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 1/2 V3] hwmon: (coretemp) Detect the Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-05-11 21:45 ` [PATCH 1/2 V3] hwmon: (coretemp) Detect the thermal sensors by CPUID Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-05-14 3:20 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 1/2 V3] hwmon: (coretemp) Detect the Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2010-05-14 3:20 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 1/2 V3] hwmon: (coretemp) Detect the thermal sensors by CPUID Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2010-05-14 6:58 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 1/2 V3 minor change] hwmon: (coretemp) Detect Huaxu Wan
2010-05-14 6:58 ` [PATCH 1/2 V3 minor change] hwmon: (coretemp) Detect the thermal sensors by CPUID Huaxu Wan
2010-05-17 9:41 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 0/2] hwmon: Update coretemp to current Intel Carsten Emde
2010-05-17 9:41 ` [PATCH 0/2] hwmon: Update coretemp to current Intel processors Carsten Emde
2010-05-17 9:41 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 1/2] Detect the thermal sensors by CPUID Carsten Emde
2010-05-17 9:41 ` Carsten Emde
2010-05-17 9:41 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 2/2] Get TjMax value from MSR Carsten Emde
2010-05-17 9:41 ` Carsten Emde
2010-05-18 4:47 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 0/2] hwmon: Update coretemp to current Dmitry Gromov
2010-05-18 7:01 ` Carsten Emde
2010-05-18 7:01 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 0/2] hwmon: Update coretemp to current Intel processors Carsten Emde
2010-05-18 12:03 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 0/2] hwmon: Update coretemp to current Dmitry Gromov
2010-05-18 12:03 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 0/2] hwmon: Update coretemp to current Intel processors Dmitry Gromov
2010-05-19 1:27 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 0/2] hwmon: Update coretemp to current Huaxu Wan
2010-05-19 1:27 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 0/2] hwmon: Update coretemp to current Intel processors Huaxu Wan
2010-05-18 5:07 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 0/2] hwmon: Update coretemp to current Wan, Huaxu
2010-05-18 6:45 ` Dmitry Gromov
2010-05-18 7:13 ` Carsten Emde
2010-05-18 7:13 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 0/2] hwmon: Update coretemp to current Intel processors Carsten Emde
2010-05-19 0:50 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 0/2] hwmon: Update coretemp to current Huaxu Wan
2010-05-19 0:50 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 0/2] hwmon: Update coretemp to current Intel processors Huaxu Wan
2010-05-19 3:12 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 0/2] hwmon: Update coretemp to current Dmitry Gromov
2010-05-19 3:12 ` [lm-sensors] [PATCH 0/2] hwmon: Update coretemp to current Intel processors Dmitry Gromov
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