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From: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Krishna Kumar <krkumar2@in.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Wang Sheng-Hui <shhuiw@gmail.com>,
	Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
	lkml - Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	avi@redhat.com, Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] virtio-spec: flexible configuration layout
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:20:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1320834017.31056.26.camel@lappy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111109101814.GC20612@redhat.com>

On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 12:18 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 11:55:02AM +0200, Sasha Levin wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 23:40 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > Here's a spec change documenting what my C patch does
> > > (almost - I tweaked the layout a bit, but the idea is the same).
> > > Some more cleanups are needed but I thought I'd send it
> > > for early flames/comments.
> > > 
> > > The idea is simple: we split functionally unrelated
> > > register groups to independent structures, and let
> > > the device place is anywhere using a capability
> > > in PCI configuration space.
> > 
> > I'm also wondering it it's ok to move virtio configuration out of virtio
> > space and into PCI space for archs that don't have PCI (such as ARM).
> 
> A bit of confusion here: no register is moved from memory into
> configuration space. Configuration space only gains a list of
> pointers into memory/pio space.

The definition of the way the virtio configuration space looks is moved
into PCI configuration space, it was constant before.

> > Would it mean they get stuck with legacy configuration (and no new
> > features)? Or is there an alternative for them?
> 
> The change only affects the layout of virtio PCI. Arches that don't
> have PCI don't use virtio PCI, presumably?
> 
> BTW, the spec only covers x86 ATM, this needs to be fixed.

From what I see there is a WIP by Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com> to add
virtio platform drivers which get virtio working on ARM for example, and
by Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> to modify the spec to
support MMIO access (besides PCI).

Maybe worth seeing if it works for them...

-- 

Sasha.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	lkml - Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
	Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Krishna Kumar <krkumar2@in.ibm.com>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Wang Sheng-Hui <shhuiw@gmail.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	avi@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] virtio-spec: flexible configuration layout
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:20:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1320834017.31056.26.camel@lappy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111109101814.GC20612@redhat.com>

On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 12:18 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 11:55:02AM +0200, Sasha Levin wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 23:40 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > Here's a spec change documenting what my C patch does
> > > (almost - I tweaked the layout a bit, but the idea is the same).
> > > Some more cleanups are needed but I thought I'd send it
> > > for early flames/comments.
> > > 
> > > The idea is simple: we split functionally unrelated
> > > register groups to independent structures, and let
> > > the device place is anywhere using a capability
> > > in PCI configuration space.
> > 
> > I'm also wondering it it's ok to move virtio configuration out of virtio
> > space and into PCI space for archs that don't have PCI (such as ARM).
> 
> A bit of confusion here: no register is moved from memory into
> configuration space. Configuration space only gains a list of
> pointers into memory/pio space.

The definition of the way the virtio configuration space looks is moved
into PCI configuration space, it was constant before.

> > Would it mean they get stuck with legacy configuration (and no new
> > features)? Or is there an alternative for them?
> 
> The change only affects the layout of virtio PCI. Arches that don't
> have PCI don't use virtio PCI, presumably?
> 
> BTW, the spec only covers x86 ATM, this needs to be fixed.

>From what I see there is a WIP by Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com> to add
virtio platform drivers which get virtio working on ARM for example, and
by Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> to modify the spec to
support MMIO access (besides PCI).

Maybe worth seeing if it works for them...

-- 

Sasha.


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Krishna Kumar <krkumar2@in.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Wang Sheng-Hui <shhuiw@gmail.com>,
	Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
	lkml - Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	avi@redhat.com, Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] virtio-spec: flexible configuration layout
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:20:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1320834017.31056.26.camel@lappy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111109101814.GC20612@redhat.com>

On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 12:18 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 11:55:02AM +0200, Sasha Levin wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 23:40 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > Here's a spec change documenting what my C patch does
> > > (almost - I tweaked the layout a bit, but the idea is the same).
> > > Some more cleanups are needed but I thought I'd send it
> > > for early flames/comments.
> > > 
> > > The idea is simple: we split functionally unrelated
> > > register groups to independent structures, and let
> > > the device place is anywhere using a capability
> > > in PCI configuration space.
> > 
> > I'm also wondering it it's ok to move virtio configuration out of virtio
> > space and into PCI space for archs that don't have PCI (such as ARM).
> 
> A bit of confusion here: no register is moved from memory into
> configuration space. Configuration space only gains a list of
> pointers into memory/pio space.

The definition of the way the virtio configuration space looks is moved
into PCI configuration space, it was constant before.

> > Would it mean they get stuck with legacy configuration (and no new
> > features)? Or is there an alternative for them?
> 
> The change only affects the layout of virtio PCI. Arches that don't
> have PCI don't use virtio PCI, presumably?
> 
> BTW, the spec only covers x86 ATM, this needs to be fixed.

>From what I see there is a WIP by Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com> to add
virtio platform drivers which get virtio working on ARM for example, and
by Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> to modify the spec to
support MMIO access (besides PCI).

Maybe worth seeing if it works for them...

-- 

Sasha.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-09 10:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2011-11-01 11:45 ` [PULL] virtio Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-01 11:45   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-01 12:33   ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-01 12:33     ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-01 12:42     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-01 12:42       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-01 12:45       ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-01 12:45         ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-02  1:09       ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-02  4:52         ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-02  4:52           ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-02 22:07           ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-02 22:07           ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-02 23:31         ` [PATCH RFC] virtio-pci: flexible configuration layout Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-02 23:31           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03  0:19           ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-03  0:19             ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-03 10:33             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 10:33               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 11:09               ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-03 11:09                 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-03 11:36                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 11:36                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 13:30                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 13:30                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 10:37           ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-03 10:37             ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-03 12:11             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 12:11               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 13:37               ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-03 13:37                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-03 13:53                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 13:53                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 14:59           ` Jesse Barnes
2011-11-03 14:59             ` Jesse Barnes
2011-11-08 21:40           ` [PATCH RFC] virtio-spec: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-08 21:40             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-08 21:41             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 10:21               ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-09  8:46             ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09  8:46             ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 10:13               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 10:13                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 10:26                 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 10:26                   ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 10:49                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 10:49                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 12:25                 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-09 12:28                   ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 12:28                     ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 12:36                     ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-09 12:36                     ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-09 15:33                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 15:33                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-18 11:54                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-18 11:54                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-18 12:05                         ` Sasha Levin
2012-06-18 12:07                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-18 12:07                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-18 12:05                         ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 12:25                 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-09 12:38               ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-09 12:38                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-09 12:48                 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 12:48                   ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 15:19                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-13 14:07                     ` Ronen Hod
2011-11-13 14:07                       ` Ronen Hod
2011-11-09 15:19                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 15:51                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 15:51                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-13 20:40                 ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2011-11-13 20:40                   ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2011-11-09  9:55             ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09  9:55             ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 10:18               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 10:18                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 10:20                 ` Sasha Levin [this message]
2011-11-09 10:20                   ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 10:20                   ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 10:47                   ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-09 10:47                   ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-09 10:55                     ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 10:55                       ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 11:06                       ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-09 11:06                       ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-09 11:39                         ` Peter Maydell
2011-11-09 11:39                         ` Peter Maydell
2011-11-09 12:07                         ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 12:07                           ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 19:59             ` [PATCHv2 " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 19:59               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 20:00               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 20:24               ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 20:24                 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 20:52                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 20:52                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 20:57                   ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 20:57                     ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 21:14                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 21:14                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 21:13                       ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 21:13                         ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-10  8:55                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-10  8:55                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-11  4:24                     ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-11  4:24                     ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-11  7:39                       ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-11  7:39                         ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-11 12:59                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-11 12:59                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-11 13:06                           ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-11 13:06                           ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-15 23:58                         ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-15 23:58                           ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-16  7:21                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-16  7:21                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-16  8:17                             ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-16  8:17                               ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-16  9:09                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-16  9:09                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-11 13:03                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-11 13:03                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-13 15:14                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-13 15:14                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-14  6:59                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-14  6:59                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-15 23:58                         ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-15 23:58                           ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-16  7:03                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-16  7:03                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-10 12:24               ` [PATCHv3 " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-10 12:24                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-02  1:09       ` [PULL] virtio Rusty Russell

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