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From: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Krishna Kumar <krkumar2@in.ibm.com>,
	Wang Sheng-Hui <shhuiw@gmail.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
	lkml - Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] virtio-spec: flexible configuration layout
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:48:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1320842938.31056.55.camel@lappy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EBA744D.8020107@redhat.com>

On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 14:38 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 11/09/2011 10:46 AM, Sasha Levin wrote:
> > > Alternatively we can add new structures with new
> > > structure IDs, pointed to from PCI configuration space.
> > > 
> > > As we don't yet have devices or drivers with 64 bit features,
> > > I decided we don't need high feature bits in legacy space.
> > > This also frees up feature bit 31 as we don't need it
> > > to enable high feature bits anymore.
> >
> > KVM tool actually has support for 64bit features, we can probably remove
> > that when Pekka isn't looking :)
> >
> 
> What about the Windows drivers?

While 64-bit features were defined, there was no actual devices to use
them.

So even if Windows drivers had the ability to support 64-bit features,
no device ever needed it therefore no device ever activated it.

A potential issue might arise when we remap feature bit 31 to do
something else, and when activated it would fool Windows drivers to
think that 64-bit features are now activated, while they're not - but
thats not something that should happen since legacy layout shouldn't
have that field enabled as per the spec (no new features in legacy
code).

I was unable to check if it was actually implemented in the drivers
because
http://git.kernel.org/?p=virt/kvm/kvm-guest-drivers-windows.git;a=summary is not quite there (*cough*).

-- 

Sasha.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	lkml - Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
	Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Krishna Kumar <krkumar2@in.ibm.com>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	Wang Sheng-Hui <shhuiw@gmail.com>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] virtio-spec: flexible configuration layout
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:48:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1320842938.31056.55.camel@lappy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EBA744D.8020107@redhat.com>

On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 14:38 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 11/09/2011 10:46 AM, Sasha Levin wrote:
> > > Alternatively we can add new structures with new
> > > structure IDs, pointed to from PCI configuration space.
> > > 
> > > As we don't yet have devices or drivers with 64 bit features,
> > > I decided we don't need high feature bits in legacy space.
> > > This also frees up feature bit 31 as we don't need it
> > > to enable high feature bits anymore.
> >
> > KVM tool actually has support for 64bit features, we can probably remove
> > that when Pekka isn't looking :)
> >
> 
> What about the Windows drivers?

While 64-bit features were defined, there was no actual devices to use
them.

So even if Windows drivers had the ability to support 64-bit features,
no device ever needed it therefore no device ever activated it.

A potential issue might arise when we remap feature bit 31 to do
something else, and when activated it would fool Windows drivers to
think that 64-bit features are now activated, while they're not - but
thats not something that should happen since legacy layout shouldn't
have that field enabled as per the spec (no new features in legacy
code).

I was unable to check if it was actually implemented in the drivers
because
http://git.kernel.org/?p=virt/kvm/kvm-guest-drivers-windows.git;a=summary is not quite there (*cough*).

-- 

Sasha.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-09 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2011-11-01 11:45 ` [PULL] virtio Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-01 11:45   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-01 12:33   ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-01 12:33     ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-01 12:42     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-01 12:42       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-01 12:45       ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-01 12:45         ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-02  1:09       ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-02  1:09       ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-02  4:52         ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-02  4:52           ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-02 22:07           ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-02 22:07           ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-02 23:31         ` [PATCH RFC] virtio-pci: flexible configuration layout Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-02 23:31           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03  0:19           ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-03  0:19             ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-03 10:33             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 10:33               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 11:09               ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-03 11:09                 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-03 11:36                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 11:36                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 13:30                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 13:30                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 10:37           ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-03 10:37             ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-03 12:11             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 12:11               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 13:37               ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-03 13:37                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-03 13:53                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 13:53                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-03 14:59           ` Jesse Barnes
2011-11-03 14:59             ` Jesse Barnes
2011-11-08 21:40           ` [PATCH RFC] virtio-spec: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-08 21:40             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-08 21:41             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 10:21               ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-09  8:46             ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 10:13               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 10:13                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 10:26                 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 10:26                   ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 10:49                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 10:49                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 12:25                 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-09 12:28                   ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 12:28                     ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 12:36                     ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-09 12:36                     ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-09 15:33                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 15:33                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-18 11:54                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-18 11:54                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-18 12:05                         ` Sasha Levin
2012-06-18 12:05                         ` Sasha Levin
2012-06-18 12:07                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-06-18 12:07                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 12:25                 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-11-09 12:38               ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-09 12:38                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-11-09 12:48                 ` Sasha Levin [this message]
2011-11-09 12:48                   ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 15:19                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 15:19                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-13 14:07                     ` Ronen Hod
2011-11-13 14:07                       ` Ronen Hod
2011-11-09 15:51                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 15:51                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-13 20:40                 ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2011-11-13 20:40                   ` Vadim Rozenfeld
2011-11-09  8:46             ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09  9:55             ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 10:18               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 10:18                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 10:20                 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 10:20                   ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 10:20                   ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 10:47                   ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-09 10:47                   ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-09 10:55                     ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 10:55                       ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 11:06                       ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-09 11:39                         ` Peter Maydell
2011-11-09 11:39                         ` Peter Maydell
2011-11-09 12:07                         ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 12:07                           ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 11:06                       ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-09  9:55             ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 19:59             ` [PATCHv2 " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 19:59               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 20:00               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 20:24               ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 20:24                 ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 20:52                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 20:52                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 20:57                   ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 20:57                     ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 21:14                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 21:14                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-09 21:13                       ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-09 21:13                         ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-10  8:55                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-10  8:55                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-11  4:24                     ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-11  4:24                     ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-11  7:39                       ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-11  7:39                         ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-11 12:59                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-11 12:59                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-11 13:06                           ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-11 13:06                           ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-15 23:58                         ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-15 23:58                           ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-16  7:21                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-16  7:21                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-16  8:17                             ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-16  8:17                               ` Sasha Levin
2011-11-16  9:09                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-16  9:09                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-11 13:03                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-11 13:03                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-13 15:14                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-13 15:14                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-14  6:59                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-14  6:59                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-15 23:58                         ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-15 23:58                           ` Rusty Russell
2011-11-16  7:03                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-16  7:03                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-10 12:24               ` [PATCHv3 " Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-11-10 12:24                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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