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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Subject: Re: [RFC 7/11] virtio_pci: new, capability-aware driver.
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 09:16:25 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1326320185.23910.157.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120111220232.GC27292@redhat.com>

On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 00:02 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > We could probably have a helper library for sending control messages
> > which could handle waiting for a ring slot to be free (practically
> > always the case on control queues), writing the message, sending it
> and
> > waiting for a status queue confirmation message.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Ben.
> > 
> 
> Look, we have a race currently. Let us not tie a bug fix to a huge
> rewrite with unclear performance benefits, please.

Well, if we change endian, change the way config works, I think we are
doing enough dramatic changes to go all the way and change the ring
format too.

I don't think there's anything "unclear" about improving the rings in
the direction that all network cards have been chosing so far :-) But
for the control ring, performance is clearly not an issue.

I also like the simplicity of immediate data, it limits the failure
path, no allocation -does- make it easier, not having to wait for the
previous buffer to be complete if you pre-allocate etc...

In any case, if we do a lot of changes at the same time, we are probably
better off cutting the cord and making an incompatible vfio v2 with a
new set of drivers.

Having to deal with all the variants in a single driver will result in
unmaintainable drivers imho.

Cheers,
Ben.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-11 22:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-08 10:22 [PATCH 0/11] RFC: PCI using capabilitities Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:30 ` [RFC 1/11] virtio: use u32, not bitmap for struct virtio_device's features Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:31 ` [RFC 2/11] virtio: add support for 64 bit features Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:32 ` [PATCH 0/11] RFC: PCI using capabilitities Sasha Levin
2011-12-08 10:32 ` [RFC 3/11] pci: add pci_iomap_range Rusty Russell
2011-12-15  8:30   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-16  1:56     ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-26 14:05       ` [PATCHv2 RFC] " Michael S Tsirkin
2011-12-26 14:05         ` Michael S Tsirkin
2011-12-08 10:34 ` [RFC 4/11] virtio-pci: define layout for virtio vendor-specific capabilities Rusty Russell
2011-12-10 21:14   ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-08 10:35 ` [RFC 6/11] virtio_pci: move old defines to legacy, introduce new structure Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:38 ` [RFC 6/11] virtio_pci: don't use the legacy driver if we find the new PCI capabilities Rusty Russell
2011-12-10 21:18   ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-11  5:15     ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-11  9:37     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-08 10:39 ` [RFC 7/11] virtio_pci: new, capability-aware driver Rusty Russell
2011-12-11  9:42   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-11 22:45     ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-12 11:49       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-12 18:10         ` Don Dutile
2011-12-16  1:58           ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-28  7:56         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29  1:17           ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-29 10:21             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-30  2:17               ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-12 18:25       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-13  2:21         ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-15  8:27           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-16  1:50             ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-18 10:18               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-19  6:06                 ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-19  9:13                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-19 11:08                     ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-20 11:37                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-21  0:33                         ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-21  9:19                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-10 17:03                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11  0:25                             ` Rusty Russell
2012-01-11  1:48                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-11  8:47                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-01-11  9:10                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-11 14:28                                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-01-11 15:39                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 17:21                                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-01-11 18:34                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 20:56                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-11 20:46                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-12 10:37                                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-01-11 10:21                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 21:13                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-11 22:13                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 22:19                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-11 22:56                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-12  5:29                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-12  6:13                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-12  6:37                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-12  2:01                                 ` Rusty Russell
2012-01-12  4:31                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-12  6:09                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-12  6:28                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-12  6:51                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-12  7:03                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-12  6:00                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-13  3:22                                     ` Rusty Russell
2012-01-11 13:30                               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 15:12                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 15:15                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 15:21                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 15:28                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 15:45                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 16:02                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 17:08                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 19:42                                               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 20:14                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 20:26                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 21:02                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-11 22:02                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 22:16                                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2012-01-12  1:42                                                         ` Rusty Russell
2012-01-13  2:19                                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-13  2:32                                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-18 15:29                                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-22 22:53                                                                 ` Rusty Russell
2012-01-18  4:52                                                             ` Rusty Russell
2012-01-11 21:58                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 20:59                                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-11 20:51                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-11 20:50                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-12  1:35                                 ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:40 ` [RFC 8/11] virtio_pci: share structure between legacy and modern Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:41 ` [RFC 9/11] virtio_pci: share interrupt/notify handlers " Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:42 ` [RFC 10/11] virtio_pci: share virtqueue setup/teardown between modern and legacy driver Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:44 ` [RFC 11/11] virtio_pci: simplify common helpers Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 15:37 ` [PATCH 0/11] RFC: PCI using capabilitities Sasha Levin
2011-12-09  6:17   ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-10 21:32     ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-11  9:05   ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-11 10:03     ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-11 12:30       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-11 12:48         ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-11 12:48         ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-11 12:47   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-11 12:53     ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-11 12:53     ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-08 15:37 ` Sasha Levin

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