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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
	virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 7/11] virtio_pci: new, capability-aware driver.
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 08:37:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120112063710.GE10319@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1326348822.23910.202.camel@pasglop>

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 05:13:42PM +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 07:29 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 09:56:39AM +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > > I'd suggest doing a simple user space app that creates such a ring,
> > > forks, and produce / consume. We can then run that through perf and
> > > analyze the cache behaviour, maximum throughput, etc....
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > Ben.
> > 
> > Sure. You can also use my tools/virtio hack: this rebuilds virtio
> > ring code in userspace, has the advantage of reusing
> > actual kernel code, so it's up to date, has same barriers, etc.
> 
> Yes, Rusty mentioned it today :-)
> 
> We'll play around in the next couple of weeks. With LCA, I'm not sure
> how much I'll get done next week but heh...
> 
> I'm curious to see if we can still have a one-size-fit-all between
> unordered blk requests with large data/descriptor access ratio and
> ordered network buffers with a much smaller one.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ben.
> 

network buffers aren't ordered when the backend is zero copy.
Another idea is to add different sized bufs in the RX ring,
and have the device use the size that fits best.
This can improve small packet memory utilization without
need for data copies, but it also means that
descriptors are completed out of order in -net.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-12  6:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-08 10:22 [PATCH 0/11] RFC: PCI using capabilitities Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:30 ` [RFC 1/11] virtio: use u32, not bitmap for struct virtio_device's features Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:31 ` [RFC 2/11] virtio: add support for 64 bit features Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:32 ` [PATCH 0/11] RFC: PCI using capabilitities Sasha Levin
2011-12-08 10:32 ` [RFC 3/11] pci: add pci_iomap_range Rusty Russell
2011-12-15  8:30   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-16  1:56     ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-26 14:05       ` [PATCHv2 RFC] " Michael S Tsirkin
2011-12-26 14:05         ` Michael S Tsirkin
2011-12-08 10:34 ` [RFC 4/11] virtio-pci: define layout for virtio vendor-specific capabilities Rusty Russell
2011-12-10 21:14   ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-08 10:35 ` [RFC 6/11] virtio_pci: move old defines to legacy, introduce new structure Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:38 ` [RFC 6/11] virtio_pci: don't use the legacy driver if we find the new PCI capabilities Rusty Russell
2011-12-10 21:18   ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-11  5:15     ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-11  9:37     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-08 10:39 ` [RFC 7/11] virtio_pci: new, capability-aware driver Rusty Russell
2011-12-11  9:42   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-11 22:45     ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-12 11:49       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-12 18:10         ` Don Dutile
2011-12-16  1:58           ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-28  7:56         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29  1:17           ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-29 10:21             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-30  2:17               ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-12 18:25       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-13  2:21         ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-15  8:27           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-16  1:50             ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-18 10:18               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-19  6:06                 ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-19  9:13                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-19 11:08                     ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-20 11:37                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-21  0:33                         ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-21  9:19                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-10 17:03                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11  0:25                             ` Rusty Russell
2012-01-11  1:48                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-11  8:47                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-01-11  9:10                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-11 14:28                                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-01-11 15:39                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 17:21                                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-01-11 18:34                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 20:56                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-11 20:46                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-12 10:37                                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-01-11 10:21                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 21:13                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-11 22:13                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 22:19                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-11 22:56                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-12  5:29                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-12  6:13                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-12  6:37                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2012-01-12  2:01                                 ` Rusty Russell
2012-01-12  4:31                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-12  6:09                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-12  6:28                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-12  6:51                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-12  7:03                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-12  6:00                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-13  3:22                                     ` Rusty Russell
2012-01-11 13:30                               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 15:12                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 15:15                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 15:21                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 15:28                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 15:45                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 16:02                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 17:08                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 19:42                                               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 20:14                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 20:26                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-01-11 21:02                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-11 22:02                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 22:16                                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-12  1:42                                                         ` Rusty Russell
2012-01-13  2:19                                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-13  2:32                                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-18 15:29                                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-22 22:53                                                                 ` Rusty Russell
2012-01-18  4:52                                                             ` Rusty Russell
2012-01-11 21:58                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-01-11 20:59                                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-11 20:51                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-11 20:50                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-01-12  1:35                                 ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:40 ` [RFC 8/11] virtio_pci: share structure between legacy and modern Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:41 ` [RFC 9/11] virtio_pci: share interrupt/notify handlers " Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:42 ` [RFC 10/11] virtio_pci: share virtqueue setup/teardown between modern and legacy driver Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 10:44 ` [RFC 11/11] virtio_pci: simplify common helpers Rusty Russell
2011-12-08 15:37 ` [PATCH 0/11] RFC: PCI using capabilitities Sasha Levin
2011-12-09  6:17   ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-10 21:32     ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-11  9:05   ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-11 10:03     ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-11 12:30       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-11 12:48         ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-11 12:48         ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-11 12:47   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-12-11 12:53     ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-11 12:53     ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-08 15:37 ` Sasha Levin

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