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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh-XVmvHMARGAS8U2dJNN8I7kB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
To: Olof Johansson <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>,
	"devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux Kernel list
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Marek Szyprowski
	<m.szyprowski-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Grant Likely
	<grant.likely-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: "memory" binding issues
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:37:14 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1379381834.3721.63.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOesGMjDFOThCYPgPq5mS8-Uk5Ye=omye329EKRsb-q_akTP4Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, 2013-09-16 at 16:48 -0700, Olof Johansson wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt
> <benh-XVmvHMARGAS8U2dJNN8I7kB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2013-09-16 at 15:48 -0700, Olof Johansson wrote:
> >> > A node that has a "reg" property should have the corresponding unit
> >> > address.
> >>
> >> No, absolutely _NOT_ a requirement. Unit address is only required if
> >> needed to disambiguate two properties with the same name.
> >>
> >> If there are no ambiguities, then leaving off the unit address is much
> >> preferred.
> >
> > I disagree :-)
> 
> Well, good thing you've got your own arch to litter the device trees
> with unit specifiers in then. :)

Right :-) We tend to have multiple memory nodes on server anyway so it's
not a big deal.

> > Also this would be only true of our find_node_by_path was capable of
> > handling it, which it isn't. Thus you end up with generic code looking
> > for /memory and finding nothing ...
> 
> Yes, this should be fixed.

Right, the whole thing becomes mostly a non-issue once that's fixed. My
main objection isn't that ARM doesn't use unit address specifiers. My
objection is that the binding documents no unit address :-) It should
instead document the unit address with a note indicating that it can be
omitted if there is no ambiguity.

But first, do we have a volunteer to fix the path parsing code ? Also do
we *really* need to keep the path parsing code for fdt ? IE. It would be
annoying to have to duplicate that code for before and after
expansion...

Cheers,
Ben.

> -Olof
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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>
Cc: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@nvidia.com>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
Subject: Re: "memory" binding issues
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 11:37:14 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1379381834.3721.63.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOesGMjDFOThCYPgPq5mS8-Uk5Ye=omye329EKRsb-q_akTP4Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 2013-09-16 at 16:48 -0700, Olof Johansson wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt
> <benh@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2013-09-16 at 15:48 -0700, Olof Johansson wrote:
> >> > A node that has a "reg" property should have the corresponding unit
> >> > address.
> >>
> >> No, absolutely _NOT_ a requirement. Unit address is only required if
> >> needed to disambiguate two properties with the same name.
> >>
> >> If there are no ambiguities, then leaving off the unit address is much
> >> preferred.
> >
> > I disagree :-)
> 
> Well, good thing you've got your own arch to litter the device trees
> with unit specifiers in then. :)

Right :-) We tend to have multiple memory nodes on server anyway so it's
not a big deal.

> > Also this would be only true of our find_node_by_path was capable of
> > handling it, which it isn't. Thus you end up with generic code looking
> > for /memory and finding nothing ...
> 
> Yes, this should be fixed.

Right, the whole thing becomes mostly a non-issue once that's fixed. My
main objection isn't that ARM doesn't use unit address specifiers. My
objection is that the binding documents no unit address :-) It should
instead document the unit address with a note indicating that it can be
omitted if there is no ambiguity.

But first, do we have a volunteer to fix the path parsing code ? Also do
we *really* need to keep the path parsing code for fdt ? IE. It would be
annoying to have to duplicate that code for before and after
expansion...

Cheers,
Ben.

> -Olof
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-09-17  1:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-16  2:57 "memory" binding issues Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-16  2:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-16 15:22 ` Kumar Gala
2013-09-16 15:22   ` Kumar Gala
2013-09-16 22:42   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-17 15:53     ` Kumar Gala
2013-09-17 15:53       ` Kumar Gala
2013-09-16 16:17 ` Stephen Warren
2013-09-16 16:17   ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]   ` <52372F2A.2050003-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-16 22:46     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-16 22:46       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-16 22:48       ` Olof Johansson
2013-09-16 22:48         ` Olof Johansson
     [not found]         ` <CAOesGMgE1jiF5OHsmPQz2z66Bcqu0HeAj=taE1vmFK-0-0s2TQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-16 23:47           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-16 23:47             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-16 23:48             ` Olof Johansson
     [not found]               ` <CAOesGMjDFOThCYPgPq5mS8-Uk5Ye=omye329EKRsb-q_akTP4Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-17  1:37                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2013-09-17  1:37                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-17  7:56           ` Tomasz Figa
2013-09-17  7:56             ` Tomasz Figa
2013-09-17 16:43             ` Olof Johansson
2013-09-17 16:43               ` Olof Johansson
     [not found]               ` <20130917164307.GA31327-O5ziIzlqnXUVNXGz7ipsyg@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-17 21:08                 ` Frank Rowand
2013-09-17 21:08                   ` Frank Rowand
     [not found]                   ` <5238C4D1.6060500-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-17 21:15                     ` Olof Johansson
2013-09-17 21:15                       ` Olof Johansson
     [not found]                       ` <CAOesGMh0F09OAR4bepGSCE5Z5OZ56fBmDPBSfwZ+NB9RgcE0Vw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-17 21:19                         ` Tomasz Figa
2013-09-17 21:19                           ` Tomasz Figa
2013-09-17 21:33                           ` Olof Johansson
     [not found]                             ` <CAOesGMjt6RsvYRjXxpB=v-Ro6iyUN=YzkDd1mfHqCDJJDRJvLg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-17 23:04                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-17 23:04                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-17 23:25                                 ` Olof Johansson
2013-09-17 23:25                                   ` Olof Johansson
2013-09-17 21:56                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-17 21:56                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-18 16:28                         ` Stephen Warren
2013-09-18 16:28                           ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                           ` <5239D4BC.3030600-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-19  0:29                             ` David Gibson
2013-09-19  0:29                               ` David Gibson
2013-09-18  1:25                     ` David Gibson
2013-09-18  1:25                       ` David Gibson
2013-09-18  1:31             ` Grant Likely
2013-09-18  1:31               ` Grant Likely
2013-09-18  1:38       ` Grant Likely
     [not found]         ` <20130918013823.D617CC42C81-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-18  8:08           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-18  8:08             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-18  2:57 ` Grant Likely
2013-09-18  2:57   ` Grant Likely
     [not found]   ` <20130918025714.A69D8C42C8F-WNowdnHR2B42iJbIjFUEsiwD8/FfD2ys@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-18  8:21     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-18  8:21       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-09-27 15:42       ` Kumar Gala
2013-09-27 15:42         ` Kumar Gala
2013-10-03 15:04         ` Kumar Gala
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-09-16  2:41 Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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