From: Pawel Moll <pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Richard Cochran
<richardcochran-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt-nx8X9YLhiw1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
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John Stultz <john.stultz-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
Masami Hiramatsu
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Christopher Covington
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Namhyung Kim <namhyung-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
David Ahern <dsahern-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>,
Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu-XCtybt49RKsYaV1qd6yewg@public.gmane.org>,
"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
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"linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/3] perf: Userspace event
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 16:01:52 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1421856112.14076.78.camel@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150105131237.GR30905-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
On Mon, 2015-01-05 at 13:12 +0000, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 04:51:57PM +0000, Pawel Moll wrote:
> > This patch adds a PR_TASK_PERF_UEVENT prctl call which can be used by
> > any process to inject custom data into perf data stream as a new
> > PERF_RECORD_UEVENT record, if such process is being observed or if it
> > is running on a CPU being observed by the perf framework.
> >
> > The prctl call takes the following arguments:
> >
> > prctl(PR_TASK_PERF_UEVENT, type, size, data, flags);
> >
> > - type: a number meaning to describe content of the following data.
> > Kernel does not pay attention to it and merely passes it further in
> > the perf data, therefore its use must be agreed between the events
> > producer (the process being observed) and the consumer (performance
> > analysis tool). The perf userspace tool will contain a repository of
> > "well known" types and reference implementation of their decoders.
> > - size: Length in bytes of the data.
> > - data: Pointer to the data.
> > - flags: Reserved for future use. Always pass zero.
> >
> > Perf context that are supposed to receive events generated with the
> > prctl above must be opened with perf_event_attr.uevent set to 1. The
> > PERF_RECORD_UEVENT records consist of a standard perf event header,
> > 32-bit type value, 32-bit data size and the data itself, followed by
> > padding to align the overall record size to 8 bytes and optional,
> > standard sample_id field.
> >
> > Example use cases:
> >
> > - "perf_printf" like mechanism to add logging messages to perf data;
> > in the simplest case it can be just
> >
> > prctl(PR_TASK_PERF_UEVENT, 0, 8, "Message", 0);
> >
> > - synchronisation of performance data generated in user space with the
> > perf stream coming from the kernel. For example, the marker can be
> > inserted by a JIT engine after it generated portion of the code, but
> > before the code is executed for the first time, allowing the
> > post-processor to pick the correct debugging information.
>
> The think I remember being raised was a unified means of these msgs
> across perf/ftrace/lttng. I am not seeing that mentioned.
Right. I was considering the "well known types repository" an attempt in
this direction. Having said that - ftrace also takes a random blob as
the trace marker, so the unification has to happen in userspace anyway.
I'll have a look what LTTng has to say in this respect.
> Also, I would like a stronger rationale for the @type argument, if it
> has no actual meaning why is it separate from the binary msg data?
Valid point. Without type 0 defined as a string, it doesn't bring
anything into the equation. I just have a gut feeling that sooner than
later we will want to split the messages somehow. Maybe we should make
it a "reserved for future use, use 0 now" field?
* struct {
* struct perf_event_header header;
* u32 __reserved; /* always 0 */
* u32 size;
* char data[size];
* char __padding[-size & 7];
* struct sample_id sample_id;
* };
or, probably even better, make it a version value at a known offset
(currently always 1, with just size and random sized data following).
* struct {
* struct perf_event_header header;
* u32 version; /* use 1 */
* u32 size;
* char data[size];
* char __padding[-size & 7];
* struct sample_id sample_id;
* };
So that we can mutate the user events format without too much of the
pain - the parsers will simply complain about unknown format if such
occurs and with the size of the record in the header, it is possible to
skip it.
Pawel
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From: Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
Christopher Covington <cov@codeaurora.org>,
Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu@tomeuvizoso.net>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-api@vger.kernel.org" <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/3] perf: Userspace event
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 16:01:52 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1421856112.14076.78.camel@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150105131237.GR30905@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Mon, 2015-01-05 at 13:12 +0000, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 04:51:57PM +0000, Pawel Moll wrote:
> > This patch adds a PR_TASK_PERF_UEVENT prctl call which can be used by
> > any process to inject custom data into perf data stream as a new
> > PERF_RECORD_UEVENT record, if such process is being observed or if it
> > is running on a CPU being observed by the perf framework.
> >
> > The prctl call takes the following arguments:
> >
> > prctl(PR_TASK_PERF_UEVENT, type, size, data, flags);
> >
> > - type: a number meaning to describe content of the following data.
> > Kernel does not pay attention to it and merely passes it further in
> > the perf data, therefore its use must be agreed between the events
> > producer (the process being observed) and the consumer (performance
> > analysis tool). The perf userspace tool will contain a repository of
> > "well known" types and reference implementation of their decoders.
> > - size: Length in bytes of the data.
> > - data: Pointer to the data.
> > - flags: Reserved for future use. Always pass zero.
> >
> > Perf context that are supposed to receive events generated with the
> > prctl above must be opened with perf_event_attr.uevent set to 1. The
> > PERF_RECORD_UEVENT records consist of a standard perf event header,
> > 32-bit type value, 32-bit data size and the data itself, followed by
> > padding to align the overall record size to 8 bytes and optional,
> > standard sample_id field.
> >
> > Example use cases:
> >
> > - "perf_printf" like mechanism to add logging messages to perf data;
> > in the simplest case it can be just
> >
> > prctl(PR_TASK_PERF_UEVENT, 0, 8, "Message", 0);
> >
> > - synchronisation of performance data generated in user space with the
> > perf stream coming from the kernel. For example, the marker can be
> > inserted by a JIT engine after it generated portion of the code, but
> > before the code is executed for the first time, allowing the
> > post-processor to pick the correct debugging information.
>
> The think I remember being raised was a unified means of these msgs
> across perf/ftrace/lttng. I am not seeing that mentioned.
Right. I was considering the "well known types repository" an attempt in
this direction. Having said that - ftrace also takes a random blob as
the trace marker, so the unification has to happen in userspace anyway.
I'll have a look what LTTng has to say in this respect.
> Also, I would like a stronger rationale for the @type argument, if it
> has no actual meaning why is it separate from the binary msg data?
Valid point. Without type 0 defined as a string, it doesn't bring
anything into the equation. I just have a gut feeling that sooner than
later we will want to split the messages somehow. Maybe we should make
it a "reserved for future use, use 0 now" field?
* struct {
* struct perf_event_header header;
* u32 __reserved; /* always 0 */
* u32 size;
* char data[size];
* char __padding[-size & 7];
* struct sample_id sample_id;
* };
or, probably even better, make it a version value at a known offset
(currently always 1, with just size and random sized data following).
* struct {
* struct perf_event_header header;
* u32 version; /* use 1 */
* u32 size;
* char data[size];
* char __padding[-size & 7];
* struct sample_id sample_id;
* };
So that we can mutate the user events format without too much of the
pain - the parsers will simply complain about unknown format if such
occurs and with the size of the record in the header, it is possible to
skip it.
Pawel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-21 16:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-06 16:51 [PATCH v4 0/3] perf: User/kernel time correlation and event generation Pawel Moll
2014-11-06 16:51 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] perf: Use monotonic clock as a source for timestamps Pawel Moll
2015-01-05 13:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20150105130035.GP30905-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-21 15:52 ` Pawel Moll
2015-01-21 15:52 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1421855543.14076.68.camel-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-21 19:48 ` Pawel Moll
2015-01-21 19:48 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1421869684.14076.105.camel-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-21 20:07 ` Pawel Moll
2015-01-21 20:07 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1415292718-19785-2-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-27 15:05 ` Pawel Moll
2014-11-27 15:05 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1417100750.4371.1.camel-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-11 13:39 ` Pawel Moll
2014-12-11 13:39 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1418305153.4037.1.camel-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-05 13:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-05 13:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-21 15:47 ` Pawel Moll
2015-01-16 12:41 ` Adrian Hunter
2015-01-16 12:41 ` Adrian Hunter
2015-01-21 20:27 ` [PATCH v5] " Pawel Moll
2015-01-21 20:27 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1421872037-12559-1-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-02 16:52 ` Pawel Moll
2015-02-02 16:52 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <CAN+dfcT_6zZZ4oeyngUE5N0Wtx2B9CvXsfU71m+cuyXpq2KBdw@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <CAN+dfcT_6zZZ4oeyngUE5N0Wtx2B9CvXsfU71m+cuyXpq2KBdw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-03 9:20 ` Pawel Moll
2015-02-03 9:20 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1422955245.4944.26.camel-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-11 16:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-11 16:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20150211161256.GH2896-IIpfhp3q70z/8w/KjCw3T+5/BudmfyzbbVWyRVo5IupeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-12 10:04 ` Adrian Hunter
2015-02-12 10:04 ` Adrian Hunter
[not found] ` <54DC7AC6.5010605-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-12 10:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-12 10:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20150212102814.GK2896-IIpfhp3q70z/8w/KjCw3T+5/BudmfyzbbVWyRVo5IupeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-12 15:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-12 15:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20150212153808.GR24151-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-13 0:25 ` John Stultz
2015-02-13 0:25 ` John Stultz
2015-02-13 7:07 ` Adrian Hunter
2015-02-13 7:07 ` Adrian Hunter
[not found] ` <1415292718-19785-1-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-06 16:51 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] perf: Userspace event Pawel Moll
2014-11-06 16:51 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1415292718-19785-3-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-05 13:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-05 13:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20150105131237.GR30905-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-21 16:01 ` Pawel Moll [this message]
2015-01-21 16:01 ` Pawel Moll
2014-11-06 16:51 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] perf: Sample additional clock value Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1415292718-19785-4-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-05 13:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-05 13:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-05 19:17 ` John Stultz
[not found] ` <20150105134514.GS30905-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-21 17:12 ` Pawel Moll
2015-01-21 17:12 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1421860365.14076.91.camel-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-21 17:44 ` John Stultz
2015-01-21 17:44 ` John Stultz
[not found] ` <CALAqxLV6ggCO81ntWuYuDjrqNeMePkZBpq92G9-iwMHm7ONuFg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-21 17:54 ` Pawel Moll
2015-01-21 17:54 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1421862883.14076.99.camel-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-21 18:05 ` John Stultz
2015-01-21 18:05 ` John Stultz
2015-01-23 17:06 ` Pawel Moll
2015-01-23 17:06 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1422032767.14076.151.camel-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-23 18:05 ` David Ahern
2015-01-23 18:05 ` David Ahern
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