From: David Ahern <dsahern-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] perf: Sample additional clock value
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 11:05:37 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54C28D71.6040603@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1422032767.14076.151.camel-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
On 1/23/15 10:06 AM, Pawel Moll wrote:
> As far as I understand (John?) POSIX timers can be used on any clockid?
> So it would be possible to obtain a dynamic clock id, for example for my
> exotic trace hardware (by any means necessary, like opening a char
> device) and create a timer firing every 1 ms (in the trace time domain).
> Than this event would be somehow associated with a perf session (for
> example, by passing the timerid via perf's ioctl) and then, every when
> timer fires, a perf record (something like PERF_RECORD_TIMER?)
> containing the timer/clock's value*and* the normal perf timestamp,
> would be injected into the circular buffer.
Like this: https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/2/27/158 ? note the date -- 4
years ago. This is has been dragging on for a long time.
A few problems with that approach:
1. I would like to see a sample generated immediately to get the
perf_clock -> timeofday correlation immediately rather than have to wait
N (milli)seconds and have perf scan forward through an M-(giga)byte file
looking for the one sample that gives the correlation.
I tried to address that problem with an ioctl to force a sample into the
stream:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/2/27/159
it did not go over very well.
2. there is a risk that the realtime samples dominate a stream.
Another issue that has been raised is updates to xtime by ntp / user. I
have suggested tracepoints to catch those:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/6/7/636
I don't believe there were ever any comments on the tracepoints.
David
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From: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
To: Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
Christopher Covington <cov@codeaurora.org>,
Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu@tomeuvizoso.net>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-api@vger.kernel.org" <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] perf: Sample additional clock value
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 11:05:37 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54C28D71.6040603@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1422032767.14076.151.camel@arm.com>
On 1/23/15 10:06 AM, Pawel Moll wrote:
> As far as I understand (John?) POSIX timers can be used on any clockid?
> So it would be possible to obtain a dynamic clock id, for example for my
> exotic trace hardware (by any means necessary, like opening a char
> device) and create a timer firing every 1 ms (in the trace time domain).
> Than this event would be somehow associated with a perf session (for
> example, by passing the timerid via perf's ioctl) and then, every when
> timer fires, a perf record (something like PERF_RECORD_TIMER?)
> containing the timer/clock's value*and* the normal perf timestamp,
> would be injected into the circular buffer.
Like this: https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/2/27/158 ? note the date -- 4
years ago. This is has been dragging on for a long time.
A few problems with that approach:
1. I would like to see a sample generated immediately to get the
perf_clock -> timeofday correlation immediately rather than have to wait
N (milli)seconds and have perf scan forward through an M-(giga)byte file
looking for the one sample that gives the correlation.
I tried to address that problem with an ioctl to force a sample into the
stream:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/2/27/159
it did not go over very well.
2. there is a risk that the realtime samples dominate a stream.
Another issue that has been raised is updates to xtime by ntp / user. I
have suggested tracepoints to catch those:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/6/7/636
I don't believe there were ever any comments on the tracepoints.
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-23 18:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-06 16:51 [PATCH v4 0/3] perf: User/kernel time correlation and event generation Pawel Moll
2014-11-06 16:51 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] perf: Use monotonic clock as a source for timestamps Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1415292718-19785-2-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-27 15:05 ` Pawel Moll
2014-11-27 15:05 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1417100750.4371.1.camel-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-11 13:39 ` Pawel Moll
2014-12-11 13:39 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1418305153.4037.1.camel-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-05 13:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-05 13:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-21 15:47 ` Pawel Moll
2015-01-16 12:41 ` Adrian Hunter
2015-01-16 12:41 ` Adrian Hunter
2015-01-21 20:27 ` [PATCH v5] " Pawel Moll
2015-01-21 20:27 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1421872037-12559-1-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-02 16:52 ` Pawel Moll
2015-02-02 16:52 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <CAN+dfcT_6zZZ4oeyngUE5N0Wtx2B9CvXsfU71m+cuyXpq2KBdw@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <CAN+dfcT_6zZZ4oeyngUE5N0Wtx2B9CvXsfU71m+cuyXpq2KBdw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-03 9:20 ` Pawel Moll
2015-02-03 9:20 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1422955245.4944.26.camel-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-11 16:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-11 16:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20150211161256.GH2896-IIpfhp3q70z/8w/KjCw3T+5/BudmfyzbbVWyRVo5IupeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-12 10:04 ` Adrian Hunter
2015-02-12 10:04 ` Adrian Hunter
[not found] ` <54DC7AC6.5010605-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-12 10:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-12 10:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20150212102814.GK2896-IIpfhp3q70z/8w/KjCw3T+5/BudmfyzbbVWyRVo5IupeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-12 15:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-02-12 15:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20150212153808.GR24151-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-13 0:25 ` John Stultz
2015-02-13 0:25 ` John Stultz
2015-02-13 7:07 ` Adrian Hunter
2015-02-13 7:07 ` Adrian Hunter
2015-01-05 13:00 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] " Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20150105130035.GP30905-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-21 15:52 ` Pawel Moll
2015-01-21 15:52 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1421855543.14076.68.camel-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-21 19:48 ` Pawel Moll
2015-01-21 19:48 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1421869684.14076.105.camel-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-21 20:07 ` Pawel Moll
2015-01-21 20:07 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1415292718-19785-1-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-06 16:51 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] perf: Userspace event Pawel Moll
2014-11-06 16:51 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1415292718-19785-3-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-05 13:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-05 13:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
[not found] ` <20150105131237.GR30905-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-21 16:01 ` Pawel Moll
2015-01-21 16:01 ` Pawel Moll
2014-11-06 16:51 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] perf: Sample additional clock value Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1415292718-19785-4-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-05 13:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-05 13:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-01-05 19:17 ` John Stultz
[not found] ` <20150105134514.GS30905-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-21 17:12 ` Pawel Moll
2015-01-21 17:12 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1421860365.14076.91.camel-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-21 17:44 ` John Stultz
2015-01-21 17:44 ` John Stultz
[not found] ` <CALAqxLV6ggCO81ntWuYuDjrqNeMePkZBpq92G9-iwMHm7ONuFg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-21 17:54 ` Pawel Moll
2015-01-21 17:54 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1421862883.14076.99.camel-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-21 18:05 ` John Stultz
2015-01-21 18:05 ` John Stultz
2015-01-23 17:06 ` Pawel Moll
2015-01-23 17:06 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1422032767.14076.151.camel-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-23 18:05 ` David Ahern [this message]
2015-01-23 18:05 ` David Ahern
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