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From: Bart Van Assche <Bart.VanAssche@sandisk.com>
To: "ming.lei@redhat.com" <ming.lei@redhat.com>
Cc: "linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"dm-devel@redhat.com" <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	"snitzer@redhat.com" <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	"axboe@kernel.dk" <axboe@kernel.dk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 6/6] dm rq: Avoid that request processing stalls sporadically
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 17:12:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1492189969.2644.9.camel@sandisk.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170414011324.GA29916@ming.t460p>

On Fri, 2017-04-14 at 09:13 +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 09:59:57AM -0700, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> > On 04/12/17 19:20, Ming Lei wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 06:38:07PM +0000, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> > > > If the blk-mq core would always rerun a hardware queue if a block driver
> > > > returns BLK_MQ_RQ_QUEUE_BUSY then that would cause 100% of a single CPU core
> > > 
> > > It won't casue 100% CPU utilization since we restart queue in completion
> > > path and at that time at least one tag is available, then progress can be
> > > made.
> > 
> > Hello Ming,
> > 
> > Sorry but you are wrong. If .queue_rq() returns BLK_MQ_RQ_QUEUE_BUSY
> > then it's likely that calling .queue_rq() again after only a few
> > microseconds will cause it to return BLK_MQ_RQ_QUEUE_BUSY again. If you
> > don't believe me, change "if (!blk_mq_sched_needs_restart(hctx) &&
> > !test_bit(BLK_MQ_S_TAG_WAITING, &hctx->state)) blk_mq_run_hw_queue(hctx,
> > true);" into "blk_mq_run_hw_queue(hctx, true);", trigger a busy
> 
> Yes, that can be true, but I mean it is still OK to run the queue again
> with
> 
> 	if (!blk_mq_sched_needs_restart(hctx) &&
> 	    !test_bit(BLK_MQ_S_TAG_WAITING, &hctx->state))
> 			blk_mq_run_hw_queue(hctx, true);
> 
> and restarting queue in __blk_mq_finish_request() when
> BLK_MQ_RQ_QUEUE_BUSY is returned from .queue_rq(). And both are in current
> blk-mq implementation.
> 
> Then why do we need blk_mq_delay_run_hw_queue(hctx, 100/*ms*/) in dm?

Because if dm_mq_queue_rq() returns BLK_MQ_RQ_QUEUE_BUSY that there is no
guarantee that __blk_mq_finish_request() will be called later on for the
same queue. dm_mq_queue_rq() can e.g. return BLK_MQ_RQ_QUEUE_BUSY while no
dm requests are in progress because the SCSI error handler is active for
all underlying paths. See also scsi_lld_busy() and scsi_host_in_recovery().

Bart.

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From: Bart Van Assche <Bart.VanAssche@sandisk.com>
To: "ming.lei@redhat.com" <ming.lei@redhat.com>
Cc: "linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"dm-devel@redhat.com" <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	"snitzer@redhat.com" <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	"axboe@kernel.dk" <axboe@kernel.dk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 6/6] dm rq: Avoid that request processing stalls sporadically
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 17:12:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1492189969.2644.9.camel@sandisk.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170414011324.GA29916@ming.t460p>

On Fri, 2017-04-14 at 09:13 +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 09:59:57AM -0700, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> > On 04/12/17 19:20, Ming Lei wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 06:38:07PM +0000, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> > > > If the blk-mq core would always rerun a hardware queue if a block d=
river
> > > > returns BLK_MQ_RQ_QUEUE_BUSY then that would cause 100% of a single=
 CPU core
> > >=20
> > > It won't casue 100% CPU utilization since we restart queue in complet=
ion
> > > path and at that time at least one tag is available, then progress ca=
n be
> > > made.
> >=20
> > Hello Ming,
> >=20
> > Sorry but you are wrong. If .queue_rq() returns BLK_MQ_RQ_QUEUE_BUSY
> > then it's likely that calling .queue_rq() again after only a few
> > microseconds will cause it to return BLK_MQ_RQ_QUEUE_BUSY again. If you
> > don't believe me, change "if (!blk_mq_sched_needs_restart(hctx) &&
> > !test_bit(BLK_MQ_S_TAG_WAITING, &hctx->state)) blk_mq_run_hw_queue(hctx=
,
> > true);" into "blk_mq_run_hw_queue(hctx, true);", trigger a busy
>=20
> Yes, that can be true, but I mean it is still OK to run the queue again
> with
>=20
> 	if (!blk_mq_sched_needs_restart(hctx) &&
> 	    !test_bit(BLK_MQ_S_TAG_WAITING, &hctx->state))
> 			blk_mq_run_hw_queue(hctx, true);
>=20
> and restarting queue in __blk_mq_finish_request() when
> BLK_MQ_RQ_QUEUE_BUSY is returned from .queue_rq(). And both are in curren=
t
> blk-mq implementation.
>=20
> Then why do we need blk_mq_delay_run_hw_queue(hctx, 100/*ms*/) in dm?

Because if dm_mq_queue_rq() returns BLK_MQ_RQ_QUEUE_BUSY that there is no
guarantee that __blk_mq_finish_request() will be called later on for the
same queue. dm_mq_queue_rq() can e.g. return BLK_MQ_RQ_QUEUE_BUSY while no
dm requests are in progress because the SCSI error handler is active for
all underlying paths. See also scsi_lld_busy() and scsi_host_in_recovery().

Bart.=

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-14 17:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-07 18:16 [PATCH v4 0/6] Avoid that scsi-mq and dm-mq queue processing stalls sporadically Bart Van Assche
2017-04-07 18:16 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-07 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] blk-mq: Make it safe to use RCU to iterate over blk_mq_tag_set.tag_list Bart Van Assche
2017-04-07 18:16   ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-10  7:10   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-04-07 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] blk-mq: Restart a single queue if tag sets are shared Bart Van Assche
2017-04-07 18:16   ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-10  7:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-04-07 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] blk-mq: Clarify comments in blk_mq_dispatch_rq_list() Bart Van Assche
2017-04-07 18:16   ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-10  7:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-04-07 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] blk-mq: Introduce blk_mq_delay_run_hw_queue() Bart Van Assche
2017-04-07 18:16   ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-10  7:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-04-10 15:02     ` Jens Axboe
2017-04-07 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] scsi: Avoid that SCSI queues get stuck Bart Van Assche
2017-04-07 18:16   ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-10  7:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-04-07 18:16 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] dm rq: Avoid that request processing stalls sporadically Bart Van Assche
2017-04-07 18:16   ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-11 16:09   ` Mike Snitzer
2017-04-11 16:09     ` Mike Snitzer
2017-04-11 16:26     ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-11 16:26       ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-11 17:47       ` Mike Snitzer
2017-04-11 17:51         ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-11 17:51           ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-11 18:03           ` Mike Snitzer
2017-04-11 18:03             ` Mike Snitzer
2017-04-11 18:18             ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-11 18:18               ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-12  3:42               ` Ming Lei
2017-04-12  3:42                 ` Ming Lei
2017-04-12 18:38                 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-12 18:38                   ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-12 18:38                   ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-13  2:20                   ` Ming Lei
2017-04-13  2:20                     ` Ming Lei
2017-04-13 16:59                     ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-14  1:13                       ` Ming Lei
2017-04-14 17:12                         ` Bart Van Assche [this message]
2017-04-14 17:12                           ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-16 10:21                           ` Ming Lei
2017-04-07 18:23 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] Avoid that scsi-mq and dm-mq queue " Jens Axboe
2017-04-07 18:33   ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-07 18:33     ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-07 18:39     ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-07 18:39       ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-07 18:51       ` Jens Axboe
2017-04-12 10:55 ` Benjamin Block
2017-04-12 10:55   ` Benjamin Block
2017-04-12 18:11   ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-12 18:11     ` Bart Van Assche
2017-04-13 12:23     ` Benjamin Block
2017-04-13 12:23       ` Benjamin Block

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