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From: zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com (Mimi Zohar)
To: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [PATCH 3/3] ima: use fs method to read integrity data
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2017 11:21:21 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1505488881.4200.96.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170915144903.GA3854@infradead.org>

On Fri, 2017-09-15 at 07:49 -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:50:27PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > This is still wrong.
> > 
> > (a) there is no explanation for why we need that exclusive lock in the
> > first place
> > 
> > Why should a read need exclusive access? You'd think shared is sufficient.
> > But regardless, it needs *explanation*.
> 
> Shared is sufficient, and nothing in the patch (except for the
> description) actually requires an exclusive lock.  It just happens that
> ima holds it exclusive for other internal reasons.

Although reading the file to calculate the file hash doesn't require
taking the lock exclusively, in either "fix" mode or called from
__fput, immediately after calculating the file hash, the file hash is
written out as an xattr. ?Writing the xattr requires taking the lock
exclusively.

Mimi

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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@kernel.org>,
	Bob Peterson <rpeterso@redhat.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Chao Yu <yuchao0@huawei.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	Joel Becker <jlbec@evilplan.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
	Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
	Ryusuke Konishi <konishi.ryusuke@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	Steven Whitehouse <swhiteho@redhat.com>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Mark Fasheh <mfasheh@versity.com>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ima-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] ima: use fs method to read integrity data
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2017 11:21:21 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1505488881.4200.96.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170915144903.GA3854@infradead.org>

On Fri, 2017-09-15 at 07:49 -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:50:27PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > This is still wrong.
> > 
> > (a) there is no explanation for why we need that exclusive lock in the
> > first place
> > 
> > Why should a read need exclusive access? You'd think shared is sufficient.
> > But regardless, it needs *explanation*.
> 
> Shared is sufficient, and nothing in the patch (except for the
> description) actually requires an exclusive lock.  It just happens that
> ima holds it exclusive for other internal reasons.

Although reading the file to calculate the file hash doesn't require
taking the lock exclusively, in either "fix" mode or called from
__fput, immediately after calculating the file hash, the file hash is
written out as an xattr.  Writing the xattr requires taking the lock
exclusively.

Mimi

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-15 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-15  4:58 [PATCH 0/3] ima: only call integrity_kernel_read to calc file hash Mimi Zohar
2017-09-15  4:58 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-15  4:58 ` [PATCH 1/3] vfs: constify path argument to kernel_read_file_from_path Mimi Zohar
2017-09-15  4:58   ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-15 18:37   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-15 18:37     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-15  4:58 ` [PATCH 2/3] integrity: replace call to integrity_read_file with kernel version Mimi Zohar
2017-09-15  4:58   ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-15  4:58 ` [PATCH 3/3] ima: use fs method to read integrity data Mimi Zohar
2017-09-15  4:58   ` Mimi Zohar
     [not found]   ` <CA+55aFwVujvsdaq09O216u-uBbBbo5i_1d6aw3ksottR_uiJ6w@mail.gmail.com>
2017-09-15  9:04     ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-15  9:04       ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-15  9:09       ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-15  9:09         ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-15 18:05       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-15 18:05         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-15 14:49     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-15 14:49       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-15 15:21       ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2017-09-15 15:21         ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-15 20:25   ` [PATCH 3/3] ima: use fs method to read integrity data (updated patch description) Mimi Zohar
2017-09-15 20:25     ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-16 18:20     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-16 18:20       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-17  5:47       ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-17  5:47         ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-17 15:17       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-17 15:17         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-17 15:28         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-17 15:28           ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-17 15:37           ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-17 15:37             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-17 16:15           ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-17 16:15             ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-17 16:34             ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-17 16:34               ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-17 16:38               ` Al Viro
2017-09-17 16:38                 ` Al Viro
2017-09-18  9:19                 ` Steven Whitehouse
2017-09-18  9:19                   ` Steven Whitehouse
2017-09-18 10:13                   ` Jan Kara
2017-09-18 10:13                     ` Jan Kara
2017-09-18 14:55                     ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-18 14:55                       ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-24 22:55                       ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-24 22:55                         ` Mimi Zohar

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