From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon)
To: linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com (SGI/Linux mailing list)
Subject: Hard Hat Linux (fwd)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 02:53:42 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <199812131053.CAA00532@oz.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
Hi,
I'm not sure if I should feel amused or saddened by this
email. I'm not a lawyer, just curious of what would you
be doing in reponse.
Note that:
The facts this email presents are inaccurate:
1) We don't have any "product" on www.linux.sgi.com
just a free source distribution.
2) His claim is ignoring the fact that "Linux" is
a trademark of Linus Torvalds which may invalidate
any claim to its derivatives by another party.
3) We use "Hard Hat 5.1" as a humorous way to say
it is somewhat unstable release of Red Hat 5.1
in a casual way in one title.
4) We never use the term "Hard Hat Linux".
I guess the question is whether our very innocent and casual
use of the phrase "Hard Hat" in one web page and without any
product connotation constitutes trademark infringement.
Forwarded message:
:From maurice@harddata.com Sat Dec 12 12:23:42 1998
:Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981212132336.00a0ecb0@209.207.211.2>
:X-Sender: mhilariu@209.207.211.2
:X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32)
:Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 13:23:36 -0700
:To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca
:From: Maurice Hilarius <maurice@harddata.com>
:Subject: Hard Hat Linux
:Cc: ariel@sgi.com
:Mime-Version: 1.0
:Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
:
:Good day Gentlemen.
:
:One of our customers pointed us to your webpage:
:http://www.linux.sgi.com/manhattan/
:
:We wish to inform you that the names "Hard Hat" and "Hard Hat Linux" are
:copyrighted names and registered trademarks of Hard Data Ltd., Of Edmonton,
:Alberta, Canada.
:
:We ask that you please use another name for your project, as we can not
:permit this use of the brand name and trademark "Hard Hat Linux".
:We suspect that this usage was probably not designed to harm our tradmark,
:but we still can not permit it to be used, especially without our express
:permission.
:
:If there are any questions please contact Maurice Hilarius of Hard Data
:Ltd. at the address and/or telphone numbers listed in the signature (below).
:
:Seasons Greetings.
:
:Best regards,
:
: Maurice W. Hilarius Telephone: 01-403-414-9319
: Hard Data Ltd. **FAX: 01-403-456-1510
: 11060 - 166 Avenue email:maurice@harddata.com
: Edmonton, AB, Canada - T5X 1Y3 http://www.harddata.com
:
:
--
Peace, Ariel
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From: ariel@oz.engr.sgi.com (Ariel Faigon)
To: SGI/Linux mailing list <linux@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com>
Subject: Hard Hat Linux (fwd)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 02:53:42 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <199812131053.CAA00532@oz.engr.sgi.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <19981213105342.F9lxzRJRtoDHpeBOLneWlxdQwuXn9fQi0YM6pptOmgs@z> (raw)
Hi,
I'm not sure if I should feel amused or saddened by this
email. I'm not a lawyer, just curious of what would you
be doing in reponse.
Note that:
The facts this email presents are inaccurate:
1) We don't have any "product" on www.linux.sgi.com
just a free source distribution.
2) His claim is ignoring the fact that "Linux" is
a trademark of Linus Torvalds which may invalidate
any claim to its derivatives by another party.
3) We use "Hard Hat 5.1" as a humorous way to say
it is somewhat unstable release of Red Hat 5.1
in a casual way in one title.
4) We never use the term "Hard Hat Linux".
I guess the question is whether our very innocent and casual
use of the phrase "Hard Hat" in one web page and without any
product connotation constitutes trademark infringement.
Forwarded message:
:From maurice@harddata.com Sat Dec 12 12:23:42 1998
:Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981212132336.00a0ecb0@209.207.211.2>
:X-Sender: mhilariu@209.207.211.2
:X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32)
:Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 13:23:36 -0700
:To: adevries@engsoc.carleton.ca
:From: Maurice Hilarius <maurice@harddata.com>
:Subject: Hard Hat Linux
:Cc: ariel@sgi.com
:Mime-Version: 1.0
:Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
:
:Good day Gentlemen.
:
:One of our customers pointed us to your webpage:
:http://www.linux.sgi.com/manhattan/
:
:We wish to inform you that the names "Hard Hat" and "Hard Hat Linux" are
:copyrighted names and registered trademarks of Hard Data Ltd., Of Edmonton,
:Alberta, Canada.
:
:We ask that you please use another name for your project, as we can not
:permit this use of the brand name and trademark "Hard Hat Linux".
:We suspect that this usage was probably not designed to harm our tradmark,
:but we still can not permit it to be used, especially without our express
:permission.
:
:If there are any questions please contact Maurice Hilarius of Hard Data
:Ltd. at the address and/or telphone numbers listed in the signature (below).
:
:Seasons Greetings.
:
:Best regards,
:
: Maurice W. Hilarius Telephone: 01-403-414-9319
: Hard Data Ltd. **FAX: 01-403-456-1510
: 11060 - 166 Avenue email:maurice@harddata.com
: Edmonton, AB, Canada - T5X 1Y3 http://www.harddata.com
:
:
--
Peace, Ariel
next reply other threads:[~1998-12-13 10:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1998-12-13 10:53 Ariel Faigon [this message]
1998-12-13 10:53 ` Hard Hat Linux (fwd) Ariel Faigon
1998-12-13 19:12 ` Mike Shaver
1998-12-14 0:58 ` Joseph Michaud
1998-12-14 0:58 ` Joseph Michaud
1998-12-14 3:29 ` William Fisher
1998-12-14 3:29 ` William Fisher
1998-12-16 23:25 ` Ariel Faigon
1998-12-16 23:25 ` Ariel Faigon
1998-12-14 4:01 ` Greg Chesson
1998-12-14 4:01 ` Greg Chesson
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