From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
Cc: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>,
Norman Diamond <ndiamond@wta.att.ne.jp>,
Wes Janzen <superchkn@sbcglobal.net>,
Rogier Wolff <R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl>,
John Bradford <john@grabjohn.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nikita@namesys.com,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Justin Cormack <justin@street-vision.com>,
Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Vitaly Fertman <vitaly@namesys.com>,
Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>,
axboe@suse.de
Subject: Re: Blockbusting news, results are in
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 01:35:51 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031019083551.GA1108@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3F924660.4040405@namesys.com>
Larry McVoy wrote:
>> I've told you guys over and over that you need to CRC the data in user
>> space, we do that in our backup scripts and it tells us when the drives
>> are going bad. S
On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 12:08:00PM +0400, Hans Reiser wrote:
> Why do the CRC in user space, that requires modifying every one of 7000+
> applications (if I understand you correctly, which is far from a sure
> thing;-) )?
> Write a reiser4 CRC file plugin. It would take a weekend, and most of the
> work would be cut and pasting from the default file plugin..
> I understand why you do it in BK, but for user space as a whole user space
> is the wrong place.
I think the fs driver layer might be the wrong thing too; maybe it'd be
best to do the CRC and/or checksumming at the block layer?
At the very least, I see a lack of genericity with respect to making it a
plugin to a specific fs. I'm going to try not to delve too far into
specifics, as my knowledge in these areas is limited, but I'd welcome any
corrections of misunderstandings I might have about feasibility, value,
or importance of these things, and even techhical misconceptions.
Jens, I apologize if advance if this is just another lame flamewar best
bitbucketed as opposed to answered.
Thanks.
-- wli
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-10-19 8:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-10-19 2:16 Blockbusting news, results are in Norman Diamond
2003-10-19 4:15 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-19 5:00 ` Paul
2003-10-19 8:19 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-19 8:08 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-19 8:35 ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2003-10-19 20:01 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-19 20:11 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-20 7:24 ` John Bradford
2003-10-19 22:49 ` jw schultz
2003-10-20 7:22 ` John Bradford
2003-10-20 8:22 ` jw schultz
2003-10-20 7:27 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-20 8:08 ` jw schultz
2003-10-19 19:49 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-20 7:22 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-21 10:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-10-21 8:43 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-19 7:37 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-19 8:09 ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-19 8:24 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-19 11:43 ` Ralf Baechle
2003-10-19 15:55 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2003-10-19 8:13 ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-19 8:17 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-19 8:41 ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-20 15:56 ` Thayne Harbaugh
2003-10-19 8:21 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-19 8:27 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-19 9:01 ` Erik Andersen
2003-10-19 14:10 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-19 18:16 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-19 19:44 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-20 7:21 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-19 14:42 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-19 10:47 ` Ingo Oeser
2003-10-19 17:36 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-19 17:39 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-19 17:51 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-20 6:22 ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-20 14:08 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-20 14:42 ` John Bradford
2003-10-20 15:55 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-20 17:32 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-21 15:18 Norman Diamond
2003-10-21 19:31 ` Chuck Campbell
2003-10-21 20:05 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-10-21 20:21 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-21 20:31 ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-10-21 21:53 ` Theodore Ts'o
2003-10-22 2:32 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-23 17:28 ` Theodore Ts'o
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