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From: Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>
To: Norman Diamond <ndiamond@wta.att.ne.jp>
Cc: "Mudama, Eric" <eric_mudama@Maxtor.com>,
	"'Hans Reiser '" <reiser@namesys.com>,
	"'Wes Janzen '" <superchkn@sbcglobal.net>,
	"'Rogier Wolff '" <R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl>,
	"'John Bradford '" <john@grabjohn.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, nikita@namesys.com,
	"'Pavel Machek '" <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	"'Justin Cormack '" <justin@street-vision.com>,
	"'Russell King '" <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	"'Vitaly Fertman '" <vitaly@namesys.com>,
	"'Krzysztof Halasa '" <khc@pm.waw.pl>
Subject: Re: Blockbusting news, results are in
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 13:43:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031019114355.GA29062@linux-mips.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <021501c39618$615619c0$24ee4ca5@DIAMONDLX60>

On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 05:09:36PM +0900, Norman Diamond wrote:

> How to force reallocations even when data are lost, so that the block number
> can still be accessed even though the data will be random or zeroes until it
> gets written again.  How to force reallocations even when data are lost, to
> prevent a different problem (i.e. if the block is not reallocated and then a
> subsequent write appears to succeed, I don't really think that spot on the
> platter has really reliably recovered even if you think so, I think the new
> data might still get lost again in a few milliseconds or minutes).
> 
> > If every other part of your computer is warrantied for 1 year, why should
> > disk drives alone in the cheapest OEM systems carry 3 year warranties?
> 
> Why does RAM carry 6 year warranties?  (Maybe some don't but this is
> common.)

The distribution of RAM failure over time is different.  Most failure of RAM
tend to be in the first few days or even hours.  After that the rate drops
to a very low value for the next few years.  In other words a long warranty
time won't cause alot of cost for the manufacturer nor benefit customers
much.  But it looks good in advertisment ...

  Ralf

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-10-19 11:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-19  7:37 Blockbusting news, results are in Mudama, Eric
2003-10-19  8:09 ` Norman Diamond
2003-10-19  8:24   ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-19 11:43   ` Ralf Baechle [this message]
2003-10-19 15:55   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2003-10-19  8:13 ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-19  8:17 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-19  8:41   ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-20 15:56     ` Thayne Harbaugh
2003-10-19  8:21 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-19  8:27   ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-19  9:01     ` Erik Andersen
2003-10-19 14:10       ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-19 18:16         ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-19 19:44           ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-20  7:21             ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-19 14:42       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-19 10:47 ` Ingo Oeser
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-21 15:18 Norman Diamond
2003-10-21 19:31 ` Chuck Campbell
2003-10-21 20:05   ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-10-21 20:21     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-21 20:31       ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-10-21 21:53       ` Theodore Ts'o
2003-10-22  2:32         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-23 17:28           ` Theodore Ts'o
2003-10-20 15:55 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-20 17:32 ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-20 14:08 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-20 14:42 ` John Bradford
2003-10-19 17:51 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-20  6:22 ` Rogier Wolff
2003-10-19 17:39 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-19 17:36 Mudama, Eric
2003-10-19  2:16 Norman Diamond
2003-10-19  4:15 ` Larry McVoy
2003-10-19  5:00   ` Paul
2003-10-19  8:19     ` Andre Hedrick
2003-10-19  8:08   ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-19  8:35     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-19 20:01       ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-19 20:11         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-10-20  7:24         ` John Bradford
2003-10-19 22:49       ` jw schultz
2003-10-20  7:22         ` John Bradford
2003-10-20  8:22           ` jw schultz
2003-10-20  7:27         ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-20  8:08           ` jw schultz
2003-10-19 19:49     ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-20  7:22       ` Hans Reiser
2003-10-21 10:31     ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-10-21  8:43 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw

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