from pupa to grub or grub2

from pupa to grub or grub2

[Yoshinori K. Okuji]

Now this list is functional. There seems to be some trouble in the GNU 
mail server, though.

I started to replace pupa with grub or grub2. It still contains PUPA in 
many places, but I'd like to remove all PUPA names from GRUB 2, so that 
the user wouldn't be confused with the mixture of project names.

But I have one question: Which is better, GRUB 2 or GRUB? Since the code 
base is quite different, I think the distinction between GRUB and GRUB 
2 is a good thing, although I prefer GRUB to GRUB 2 as a software name.

For now, I call it sometimes GRUB 2, and sometimes just GRUB. IMO, it is 
better to have a good guideline which specifies which name should be 
used in a given situation. Do you have any idea?

Okuji

Re: from pupa to grub or grub2

[chaac]

Yoshinori K. Okuji wrote:
> But I have one question: Which is better, GRUB 2 or GRUB? Since the code 
> base is quite different, I think the distinction between GRUB and GRUB 
> 2 is a good thing, although I prefer GRUB to GRUB 2 as a software name.
> 
> For now, I call it sometimes GRUB 2, and sometimes just GRUB. IMO, it is 
> better to have a good guideline which specifies which name should be 
> used in a given situation. Do you have any idea?
> 
> Okuji

Hi,

Maybe GRUB could be the base name and number 2 would then be just mean 
version 2(.xx). It is not unusual that major rewrite is done between 
major versions of software.

If you speak with name GRUB then what version you are speaking could 
probably be detected from context.

If it is official context you could just say GRUB 2.0 (or whatever is 
current version numbering scheme). Or by short GRUB 2 if referring to 
something that is only in newest version.

Just my thoughs.

Thanks,
Vesa Jääskeläinen

Re: from pupa to grub or grub2

[M. Gerards]

Quoting "Yoshinori K. Okuji" <okuji@gnu.org>:

> I started to replace pupa with grub or grub2. It still contains PUPA in 
> many places, but I'd like to remove all PUPA names from GRUB 2, so that 
> the user wouldn't be confused with the mixture of project names.

That is nice.  Can you please wait until I applied my patches?  There
are two big patched I'd like to apply this week.

> But I have one question: Which is better, GRUB 2 or GRUB? Since the code 
> base is quite different, I think the distinction between GRUB and GRUB 
> 2 is a good thing, although I prefer GRUB to GRUB 2 as a software name.

Both are fine for me.  But the best thing is to make sure people will not
get confused, with the reasoning GRUB 2 would be better.  Personally
I do like GRUB better because is looks nicer.

> For now, I call it sometimes GRUB 2, and sometimes just GRUB. IMO, it is 
> better to have a good guideline which specifies which name should be 
> used in a given situation. Do you have any idea?

It would be better to use it GRUB 2 all the time.  

--
Marco

Re: from pupa to grub or grub2

[Johan Rydberg]

"Yoshinori K. Okuji" <okuji@gnu.org> wrote:

: But I have one question: Which is better, GRUB 2 or GRUB? Since the code 
: base is quite different, I think the distinction between GRUB and GRUB 
: 2 is a good thing, although I prefer GRUB to GRUB 2 as a software name.

Simpluy GRUB.  PUPA, or GRUB 2, as I see it, just version 2 of GRUB but
the name is still GRUB.  I do not want to see any grub2_ prefixes in the
code :)

-- 
Johan Rydberg, Free Software Developer, Sweden
http://rtmk.sf.net | http://www.nongnu.org/guss/

Playing Uminski - Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger

Re: from pupa to grub or grub2

[Jeff Sheinberg]

Yoshinori K. Okuji writes:
 > But I have one question: Which is better, GRUB 2 or GRUB?

GRUB.

The version numbers belong in the source repository.

-- 
Jeff Sheinberg

Re: from pupa to grub or grub2

[Yoshinori K. Okuji]

So, let's use grub mainly, and use grub2 only if it is required.

Marco, can I ask Savannah hackers to rename files now? I can wait, if 
you want to apply your patch.

We need to change these file names:

./include/pupa
./util/i386/pc/pupa-mkimage.c
./util/i386/pc/pupa-setup.c
./util/pupa-emu.c

Okuji