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From: Matt Porter <mporter@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Ian Molton <spyro@f2s.com>
Cc: Matt Porter <mporter@kernel.crashing.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, greg@kroah.com, tony@atomide.com,
	david-b@pacbell.net, jamey.hicks@hp.com, joshua@joshuawise.com
Subject: Re: DMA API issues
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 11:58:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040618115809.C3851@home.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040618191958.1cc3508c.spyro@f2s.com>; from spyro@f2s.com on Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 07:19:58PM +0100

On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 07:19:58PM +0100, Ian Molton wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 11:07:21 -0700
> Matt Porter <mporter@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
> 
> > Can't you just implement an arch-specific allocator for your 32KB
> > SRAM, then implement the DMA API streaming and dma_alloc/free APIs
> > on top of that?
> 
> Yes but thats not very generic is it? Im not the only one with this
> problem.

Yes, it's suboptimal, but an option.
 
> >  Since this architecture is obviously not designed
> > for performance
> 
> What makes you think writes to the 32K SRAM are any slower than to the
> SDRAM? the device is completely memory mapped.

I was referring to the small amount of space allowed for DMA
operations, obviously not the speed of accessing SRAM.
 
> >, it doesn't seem to be a big deal to have the streaming
> > APIs copy to/from the kmalloced (or whatever) buffer to/from the SRAM
> > allocated memory and then have those APIs return the proper dma_addr_t
> > for the embedded OHCI's address space view of the SRAM.
> 
> Again its a suboptimal solution, and on an architecture where the CPU
> isnt *that* fast in the first place it seems wrong to deliberately
> choose the slowest possible route...

Ok, so you're looking for a complete change to the streaming DMA APIs,
I guess.  Possibly requiring another call to allocate streaming-capable
memory since kmalloced buffers can't be used directly on your arch (or
all arches).  I agree it's suboptimal, it's one option to make it work
in the current API.

-Matt

  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-18 18:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-18 16:59 DMA API issues Ian Molton
2004-06-18 18:07 ` Matt Porter
2004-06-18 18:19   ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 18:58     ` Matt Porter [this message]
2004-06-18 18:33   ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 19:21     ` Matt Porter
2004-06-18 19:43       ` Russell King
2004-06-21 13:35         ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-21 23:08           ` Russell King
2004-06-22  2:06             ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-22  3:18               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-22  3:26                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-22 10:40                   ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-23 12:34                     ` Russell King
2004-06-23 15:36                       ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-23 15:44                         ` Russell King
2004-06-23 16:01                           ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-23 16:10                             ` Russell King
2004-06-22 10:48             ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-18 19:48       ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 21:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-18 22:12   ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-06-18 23:27     ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 23:26   ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 23:30     ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 23:32       ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]         ` <20040619005714.37b68453.spyro@f2s.com>
     [not found]           ` <40D3838B.2070608@pobox.com>
     [not found]             ` <20040619011621.4491600a.spyro@f2s.com>
     [not found]               ` <40D3872F.5010007@pobox.com>
2004-06-19  0:34                 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19 21:15                   ` Tony Lindgren
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-18 18:20 James Bottomley
2004-06-18 18:35 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 18:52   ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 18:57     ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 19:20       ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 19:44         ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 19:57           ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 21:08             ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 21:14               ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 22:38                 ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 23:07                   ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 23:31                     ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19 18:23                     ` David Brownell
2004-06-19 20:41                       ` Russell King
2004-06-19 21:46                         ` James Bottomley
2004-06-19 22:49                           ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 13:37                             ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 15:50                               ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 16:26                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-20 16:57                                   ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 20:15                                   ` David Brownell
2004-06-20 16:46                                 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 18:02                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-20 19:27                                     ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 19:34                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-20 20:07                                   ` David Brownell
2004-06-20 20:18                               ` David Brownell
2004-06-20 20:02                         ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 23:25             ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 23:29               ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 23:51                 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19  0:04                   ` James Bottomley
2004-06-19  0:14                     ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19  3:49                       ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 20:59                         ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 19:30       ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 19:56         ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 19:22     ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 19:41       ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 20:02         ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-18 20:07           ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 20:14       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-06-18 20:24         ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 21:20           ` Russell King
2004-06-18 23:20             ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 18:25               ` Deepak Saxena

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