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From: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: Matt Porter <mporter@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Jamey Hicks <jamey.hicks@hp.com>, Ian Molton <spyro@f2s.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, greg@kroah.com, tony@atomide.com,
	david-b@pacbell.net, joshua@joshuawise.com
Subject: Re: DMA API issues
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 00:08:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040622000838.B7802@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5hoendm3td.wl@alsa2.suse.de>; from tiwai@suse.de on Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 03:35:42PM +0200

On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 03:35:42PM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> At Fri, 18 Jun 2004 20:43:22 +0100,
> Russell King wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 12:21:12PM -0700, Matt Porter wrote:
> > > > page_to_dma so that device specific dma addresses can be constructed.
> > > 
> > > A struct device argument to page_to_dma seems like a no brainer to be
> > > included.
> > 
> > Tony Lindgren recently submitted a patch for this:
> > 
> > http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/patches/viewpatch.php?id=1931/1
> > 
> > which now pending for Linus.  ARM platforms now have three macros to
> > define if they want to override the default struct page to DMA address
> > translation.
> 
> Wouldn't it be nicer to define a more generic style like
> 
> struct page *dma_to_page(struct device *, void *, dma_addr_t)

What's the 'void *' for?  Hint: this has nothing to do with the virtual
address and DMA address returned from dma_alloc_coherent().

page_to_dma - converts a struct page to a DMA address for a given device
dma_to_virt - converts a DMA address to a CPU direct-mapped virtual address
virt_to_dma - converts a CPU direct-mapped virtual address to a DMA address

Each one well defined for our _current_ interfaces.

> Yes, the struct page pointer is needed for vma_ops.nopage in mmap on
> ALSA.  So far, this is broken on some architectures like ARM.  We need
> a proper conversion from virtual/bus pointer to a page struct.

Please get away from your nopage implementation.  We've been around this
before with Linus, and the conclusion was that it's up to architectures
to provide a MMAP method for DMA memory, which _may_ use the nopage
method if and only if it is appropriate for their implementation.

There's just no way I'm going to implement a half-baked "nopage" function
for ALSA.

This is actually the same issue for some framebuffer devices as well -
which also need DMA MMAP to be correct.

-- 
Russell King
 Linux kernel    2.6 ARM Linux   - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
 maintainer of:  2.6 PCMCIA      - http://pcmcia.arm.linux.org.uk/
                 2.6 Serial core

  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-21 23:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-18 16:59 DMA API issues Ian Molton
2004-06-18 18:07 ` Matt Porter
2004-06-18 18:19   ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 18:58     ` Matt Porter
2004-06-18 18:33   ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 19:21     ` Matt Porter
2004-06-18 19:43       ` Russell King
2004-06-21 13:35         ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-21 23:08           ` Russell King [this message]
2004-06-22  2:06             ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-22  3:18               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-22  3:26                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-22 10:40                   ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-23 12:34                     ` Russell King
2004-06-23 15:36                       ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-23 15:44                         ` Russell King
2004-06-23 16:01                           ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-23 16:10                             ` Russell King
2004-06-22 10:48             ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-18 19:48       ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 21:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-18 22:12   ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-06-18 23:27     ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 23:26   ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 23:30     ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 23:32       ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]         ` <20040619005714.37b68453.spyro@f2s.com>
     [not found]           ` <40D3838B.2070608@pobox.com>
     [not found]             ` <20040619011621.4491600a.spyro@f2s.com>
     [not found]               ` <40D3872F.5010007@pobox.com>
2004-06-19  0:34                 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19 21:15                   ` Tony Lindgren
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-18 18:20 James Bottomley
2004-06-18 18:35 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 18:52   ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 18:57     ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 19:20       ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 19:44         ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 19:57           ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 21:08             ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 21:14               ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 22:38                 ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 23:07                   ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 23:31                     ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19 18:23                     ` David Brownell
2004-06-19 20:41                       ` Russell King
2004-06-19 21:46                         ` James Bottomley
2004-06-19 22:49                           ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 13:37                             ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 15:50                               ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 16:26                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-20 16:57                                   ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 20:15                                   ` David Brownell
2004-06-20 16:46                                 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 18:02                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-20 19:27                                     ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 19:34                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-20 20:07                                   ` David Brownell
2004-06-20 20:18                               ` David Brownell
2004-06-20 20:02                         ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 23:25             ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 23:29               ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 23:51                 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19  0:04                   ` James Bottomley
2004-06-19  0:14                     ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19  3:49                       ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 20:59                         ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 19:30       ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 19:56         ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 19:22     ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 19:41       ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 20:02         ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-18 20:07           ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 20:14       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-06-18 20:24         ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 21:20           ` Russell King
2004-06-18 23:20             ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 18:25               ` Deepak Saxena

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