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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Ian Molton <spyro@f2s.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, greg@kroah.com, tony@atomide.com,
	david-b@pacbell.net, jamey.hicks@hp.com, joshua@joshuawise.com,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>
Subject: Re: DMA API issues
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 17:08:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40D359B3.6080400@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040618175902.778e616a.spyro@f2s.com>

Ian Molton wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> This may have come up previously but I havent seen it, so...
> 
> My colleagues and I are encountering a number of difficulties with the
> DMA API, to which a generic solution is required (or risk multiple
> architectures, busses, and devices going their own way...)
> 
> Here is an example system that illustrates these problems:
> 
> I have a System On Chip device which, among other functions, contains an
> OHCI controller and 32K of SRAM.
> 
> heres the catch:- The OHCI controller has a different address space than
> the host bus, and worse, can *only* DMA data from its internal SRAM.

Unfortunately, I tend to think that you should not be using the DMA API 
for this, since it's not host RAM.

There are loads of devices with on-board SRAM/DRAM/... you really have 
to manage your own resources at that point.

I know that sucks, WRT driver re-use.  Maybe you can wrap it inside the 
OHCI driver, ohci_dma_alloc_xxx() etc.  For the normal case, the wrapper 
resolves directly to the DMA API.  For the embedded case, the wrapper 
does SRAM-specific stuff.

You _might_ convince the kernel DMA gurus that this could be done by 
creating a driver-specific bus, and pointing struct device to that 
internal bus, but that seems like an awful lot of work as opposed to the 
wrappers.

	Jeff



  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-06-18 21:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-18 16:59 DMA API issues Ian Molton
2004-06-18 18:07 ` Matt Porter
2004-06-18 18:19   ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 18:58     ` Matt Porter
2004-06-18 18:33   ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 19:21     ` Matt Porter
2004-06-18 19:43       ` Russell King
2004-06-21 13:35         ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-21 23:08           ` Russell King
2004-06-22  2:06             ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-22  3:18               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-22  3:26                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-22 10:40                   ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-23 12:34                     ` Russell King
2004-06-23 15:36                       ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-23 15:44                         ` Russell King
2004-06-23 16:01                           ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-23 16:10                             ` Russell King
2004-06-22 10:48             ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-18 19:48       ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 21:08 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2004-06-18 22:12   ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-06-18 23:27     ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 23:26   ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 23:30     ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 23:32       ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]         ` <20040619005714.37b68453.spyro@f2s.com>
     [not found]           ` <40D3838B.2070608@pobox.com>
     [not found]             ` <20040619011621.4491600a.spyro@f2s.com>
     [not found]               ` <40D3872F.5010007@pobox.com>
2004-06-19  0:34                 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19 21:15                   ` Tony Lindgren
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-18 18:20 James Bottomley
2004-06-18 18:35 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 18:52   ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 18:57     ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 19:20       ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 19:44         ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 19:57           ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 21:08             ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 21:14               ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 22:38                 ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 23:07                   ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 23:31                     ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19 18:23                     ` David Brownell
2004-06-19 20:41                       ` Russell King
2004-06-19 21:46                         ` James Bottomley
2004-06-19 22:49                           ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 13:37                             ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 15:50                               ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 16:26                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-20 16:57                                   ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 20:15                                   ` David Brownell
2004-06-20 16:46                                 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 18:02                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-20 19:27                                     ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 19:34                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-20 20:07                                   ` David Brownell
2004-06-20 20:18                               ` David Brownell
2004-06-20 20:02                         ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 23:25             ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 23:29               ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 23:51                 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19  0:04                   ` James Bottomley
2004-06-19  0:14                     ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19  3:49                       ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 20:59                         ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 19:30       ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 19:56         ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 19:22     ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 19:41       ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 20:02         ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-18 20:07           ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 20:14       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-06-18 20:24         ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 21:20           ` Russell King
2004-06-18 23:20             ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 18:25               ` Deepak Saxena

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