From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Ian Molton <spyro@f2s.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, greg@kroah.com, tony@atomide.com,
jamey.hicks@hp.com, joshua@joshuawise.com
Subject: Re: DMA API issues
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 12:20:24 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40D34078.5060909@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040618195721.0cf43ec2.spyro@f2s.com>
Ian Molton wrote:
> On 18 Jun 2004 13:52:46 -0500
> James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com> wrote:
>
>
>>You still haven't explained what you want to do though. Apart from the
>>occasional brush with usbstorage, I don't have a good knowledge of the
>>layout of the USB drivers. I assume you simply want to persuade the
>>ohci driver to use your memory area somehow, but what do you actually
>>want the ohci driver to do with it? And how much leeway do you get to
>>customise the driver.
A fair amount, so long as drivers above it don't need to
change much at all (this is "stable"). That includes
usbcore and all the usb drivers.
>
> In *theory* the OHCI driver is doing everything right - its asking for DMAable memory and using it. if the DMA api simply understood the device in question, and alocated accordingly, it would just work.
>
> there are two solutions:
>
> 1) Break up the OHCI driver and make it into a chip driver as you describe
It's heading that way already ... breaking along the lines
where standard APIs solve problems, such as this.
> 2) Make the DMA API do the right thing with these devices
>
> 1) means everyone gets to write their own allocator - not pretty
> 2) means we get to share code and it all just works.
>
For example, if usbaudio uses usb_buffer_alloc to stream data,
that eliminates dma bouncing. That's dma_alloc_coherent at
its core ... it should allocate from that 32K region.
- Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-06-18 19:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-06-18 18:20 DMA API issues James Bottomley
2004-06-18 18:35 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 18:52 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 18:57 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 19:20 ` David Brownell [this message]
2004-06-18 19:44 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 19:57 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 21:08 ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 21:14 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 22:38 ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 23:07 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 23:31 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19 18:23 ` David Brownell
2004-06-19 20:41 ` Russell King
2004-06-19 21:46 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-19 22:49 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 13:37 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 15:50 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 16:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-20 16:57 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 20:15 ` David Brownell
2004-06-20 16:46 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 18:02 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-20 19:27 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 19:34 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-20 20:07 ` David Brownell
2004-06-20 20:18 ` David Brownell
2004-06-20 20:02 ` David Brownell
2004-06-18 23:25 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 23:29 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 23:51 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19 0:04 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-19 0:14 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19 3:49 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-20 20:59 ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-19 15:11 ` DMA API issues... summary Ian Molton
2004-06-20 20:49 ` Joshua Wise
2004-06-18 19:30 ` DMA API issues James Bottomley
2004-06-18 19:56 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 19:22 ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 19:41 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 20:02 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-06-18 20:07 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 20:14 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-06-18 20:24 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 21:20 ` Russell King
2004-06-18 23:20 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-20 18:25 ` Deepak Saxena
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-18 16:59 Ian Molton
2004-06-18 18:07 ` Matt Porter
2004-06-18 18:19 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 18:58 ` Matt Porter
2004-06-18 18:33 ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 19:21 ` Matt Porter
2004-06-18 19:43 ` Russell King
2004-06-21 13:35 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-21 23:08 ` Russell King
2004-06-22 2:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-22 3:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-22 3:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-22 10:40 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-23 12:34 ` Russell King
2004-06-23 15:36 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-23 15:44 ` Russell King
2004-06-23 16:01 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-23 16:10 ` Russell King
2004-06-22 10:48 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-06-18 19:48 ` Jamey Hicks
2004-06-18 21:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-06-18 22:12 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-06-18 23:27 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 23:26 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-18 23:30 ` James Bottomley
2004-06-18 23:32 ` Jeff Garzik
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2004-06-19 0:34 ` Ian Molton
2004-06-19 21:15 ` Tony Lindgren
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