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From: Werner Almesberger <wa@almesberger.net>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: barriers vs. reads
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 05:34:25 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040622053425.E1325@almesberger.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040622075531.GX12881@suse.de>; from axboe@suse.de on Tue, Jun 22, 2004 at 09:55:32AM +0200

Jens Axboe wrote:
> If there are lots of barrier writes, you mean?

If there are a lot of writes before the barrier. Then the reads
after the barrier have to wait for all these writes to complete.
Of course, things get even worse if you have a lot of barriers,
in addition to there being lots of writes.

> To me, it's the expected behaviour. If you issue a barrier write, a read
> issued later should not be able to fetch old data.

... which pretty much kills the idea of short predictable
queuing delays :-(

> Hmm? Recently this was moved into __elv_add_request()

Ah, okay, different definition of where the elevator starts ;-)
Yes, I saw that.

BTW, in what cases would ELEVATOR_INSERT_FRONT combined with
a barrier make sense ?

- Werner

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-22  8:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-22  3:53 barriers vs. reads Werner Almesberger
2004-06-22  7:39 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-22  7:50   ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-22  7:55     ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-22  8:34       ` Werner Almesberger [this message]
2004-06-22 10:08         ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-22 11:28       ` Jamie Lokier
2004-06-22 11:32         ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-22 17:12           ` Bryan Henderson
2004-06-22 20:53             ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-23 16:41               ` Bryan Henderson
2004-06-23 16:52                 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-23 16:53                 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-06-23 21:08                   ` Bryan Henderson
2004-06-23 23:23                   ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-24 13:43                     ` Jamie Lokier
2004-06-24 14:32                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-24 17:05                       ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-22 18:53           ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-22 19:57             ` Jamie Lokier
2004-06-22 23:13               ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-22 20:57             ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-22 23:10               ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-23  0:14                 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-06-23  6:27                 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-22 18:45         ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-22 19:07           ` Guy
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-24  0:48 Werner Almesberger
2004-06-24  3:39 ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-24  8:00   ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-06-24 12:16     ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-24 13:36   ` Jamie Lokier
2004-06-24 17:02     ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-24 16:39 ` Steve Lord

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