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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Werner Almesberger <wa@almesberger.net>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: barriers vs. reads
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 01:14:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040623001404.GA28315@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040622201027.J1325@almesberger.net>

Werner Almesberger wrote:
> > Bad idea, unless you have zero setup overhead for the hardware issued
> > commands. Linux will also attempt to remerge these requests when it
> > later discovers they are adjacent. You can block this by disallowing
> > merging of request with different priorities, but I really don't see why
> > you'd want to do that. It would be a net loss in the end anyways.
> 
> The issue is that you may get large requests, in the middle of
> which a single page gets a higher priority, e.g. because the
> large request comes from a low-priority copy operation, and
> there's a high-priority reader concurrently working on the
> same file.
> 
> In this case, the high-priority reader either has to wait for
> the whole low-priority request to crawl to the head of the queue
> (probably missing the deadline of the high-priority read), or we
> could take the request and raise its priority, giving our
> low-priority reader a nice boost. The latter isn't so bad if it
> happens every once in a while, but someone may figure out how to
> do this repeatedly, throwing off our bandwidth calculations.

That's fine for a device with fast data transfer and slow seek times.
But for a device with slow data transfer (e.g. nbd to a remote disk),
you'd want to split the request for sure.

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-23  0:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-22  3:53 barriers vs. reads Werner Almesberger
2004-06-22  7:39 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-22  7:50   ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-22  7:55     ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-22  8:34       ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-22 10:08         ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-22 11:28       ` Jamie Lokier
2004-06-22 11:32         ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-22 17:12           ` Bryan Henderson
2004-06-22 20:53             ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-23 16:41               ` Bryan Henderson
2004-06-23 16:52                 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-23 16:53                 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-06-23 21:08                   ` Bryan Henderson
2004-06-23 23:23                   ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-24 13:43                     ` Jamie Lokier
2004-06-24 14:32                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-06-24 17:05                       ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-22 18:53           ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-22 19:57             ` Jamie Lokier
2004-06-22 23:13               ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-22 20:57             ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-22 23:10               ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-23  0:14                 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2004-06-23  6:27                 ` Jens Axboe
2004-06-22 18:45         ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-22 19:07           ` Guy
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-06-24  0:48 Werner Almesberger
2004-06-24  3:39 ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-24  8:00   ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-06-24 12:16     ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-24 13:36   ` Jamie Lokier
2004-06-24 17:02     ` Werner Almesberger
2004-06-24 16:39 ` Steve Lord

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