From: Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Ravikiran G Thirumalai <kiran@in.ibm.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Refcounting of objects part of a lockfree collection
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 13:56:22 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040714082621.GA4291@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040714070700.GA12579@kroah.com>
On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 12:07:00AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 10:23:50AM +0530, Ravikiran G Thirumalai wrote:
> >
> > The attatched patch provides infrastructure for refcounting of objects
> > in a rcu protected collection.
>
> This is really close to the kref implementation. Why not just use that
> instead?
Well, the kref has the same get/put race if used in a lock-free
look-up. When you do a kref_get() it is assumed that another
cpu will not see a 1-to-0 transition of the reference count.
If that indeed happens, ->release() will get invoked more
than once for that object which is bad. Kiran's patch actually
solves this fundamental lock-free ref-counting problem.
The other issue is that there are many refcounted data structures
like dentry, dst_entry, file etc. that do not use kref. If everybody
were to use kref, we could possibly apply Kiran's lock-free extensions
to kref itself and be done with it. Until then, we need the lock-free
refcounting support from non-kref refcounting objects.
Thanks
Dipankar
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-07-14 8:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-07-14 4:53 [RFC] Refcounting of objects part of a lockfree collection Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-14 4:56 ` [RFC] Lock free fd lookup Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-14 15:17 ` Chris Wright
2004-07-15 14:22 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-07-15 16:10 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-15 16:22 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-07-15 16:34 ` Chris Wright
2004-07-16 5:38 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-16 6:27 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-17 0:55 ` Keith Owens
2004-07-17 1:19 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-17 2:12 ` Keith Owens
2004-07-17 2:34 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-17 2:28 ` Keith Owens
2004-07-17 3:16 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-17 13:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2004-07-14 7:07 ` [RFC] Refcounting of objects part of a lockfree collection Greg KH
2004-07-14 8:26 ` Dipankar Sarma [this message]
2004-07-14 14:26 ` Greg KH
2004-07-14 15:22 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-14 17:03 ` Greg KH
2004-07-14 17:49 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-14 18:03 ` Greg KH
2004-07-15 6:21 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-15 6:56 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-14 8:57 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-14 17:08 ` Greg KH
2004-07-14 18:17 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-15 8:02 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-15 9:36 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-16 14:32 ` Greg KH
2004-07-16 15:50 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
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2004-07-14 10:24 Oleg Nesterov
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