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From: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@engr.sgi.com>
To: Chris Wright <chrisw@osdl.org>
Cc: Ravikiran G Thirumalai <kiran@in.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dipankar@in.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] Lock free fd lookup
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:22:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200407151022.53084.jbarnes@engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040714081737.N1973@build.pdx.osdl.net>

On Wednesday, July 14, 2004 11:17 am, Chris Wright wrote:
> * Ravikiran G Thirumalai (kiran@in.ibm.com) wrote:
> > This makes use of the lockfree refcounting infrastructure (see earlier
> > posting today) to make files_struct.fd[] lookup lockfree. This is
> > carrying forward work done by Maneesh and Dipankar earlier.
> >
> > With the lockfree fd lookup patch, tiobench performance increases by 13%
> > for sequential reads, 21 % for random reads on a 4 processor pIII xeon.
>
> I'm curious, how much of the performance improvement is from RCU usage
> vs. making the basic syncronization primitive aware of a reader and
> writer distinction?  Do you have benchmark for simply moving to rwlock_t?

That's a good point.  Also, even though the implementation may be 'lockless', 
there are still a lot of cachelines bouncing around, whether due to atomic 
counters or cmpxchg (in fact the latter will be worse than simple atomics).

It seems to me that RCU is basically rwlocks on steroids, which means that 
using it requires the same care to avoid starvation and/or other scalability 
problems (i.e. we'd better be really sure that a given codepath really should 
be using rwlocks before we change it).

Jesse

  reply	other threads:[~2004-07-15 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-07-14  4:53 [RFC] Refcounting of objects part of a lockfree collection Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-14  4:56 ` [RFC] Lock free fd lookup Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-14 15:17   ` Chris Wright
2004-07-15 14:22     ` Jesse Barnes [this message]
2004-07-15 16:10       ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-15 16:22         ` Jesse Barnes
2004-07-15 16:34         ` Chris Wright
2004-07-16  5:38           ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-16  6:27       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-17  0:55         ` Keith Owens
2004-07-17  1:19           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-17  2:12             ` Keith Owens
2004-07-17  2:34               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-17  2:28             ` Keith Owens
2004-07-17  3:16               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-17 13:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2004-07-14  7:07 ` [RFC] Refcounting of objects part of a lockfree collection Greg KH
2004-07-14  8:26   ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-14 14:26     ` Greg KH
2004-07-14 15:22       ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-14 17:03         ` Greg KH
2004-07-14 17:49           ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-14 18:03             ` Greg KH
2004-07-15  6:21       ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-15  6:56         ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-14  8:57   ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-14 17:08     ` Greg KH
2004-07-14 18:17       ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-15  8:02       ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2004-07-15  9:36         ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-07-16 14:32         ` Greg KH
2004-07-16 15:50           ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-07-17  8:50 [RFC] Lock free fd lookup Manfred Spraul
2004-07-17  9:30 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-07-17 19:17 Albert Cahalan
2004-07-29  0:14 ` William Lee Irwin III

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