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From: Thomas Zimmerman <thomas@zimres.net>
To: linux-kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: PATCH: cdrecord: avoiding scsi device numbering for ide devices
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 00:02:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040810070226.GA10993@darklands> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1092106283.5761.304.camel@cube>

On 09-Aug 10:51, Albert Cahalan wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 00:47, Con Kolivas wrote:
> > Albert Cahalan writes:
> > > On Mon, 2004-08-09 at 18:59, Con Kolivas wrote:
> > >> Albert Cahalan writes:
> 
> > >> > Joerg:
> > >> >    "WARNING: Cannot do mlockall(2).\n"
> > >> >    "WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns.\n"
> > >> > Fixed:
> > >> >    "Warning: You don't have permission to lock memory.\n"
> > >> >    "         If the computer is not idle, the CD may be ruined.\n"
> > >> > 
> > >> > Joerg:
> > >> >    "WARNING: Cannot set priority class parameters priocntl(PC_SETPARMS)\n"
> > >> >    "WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns.\n"
> > >> > Fixed:
> > >> >    "Warning: You don't have permission to hog the CPU.\n"
> > >> >    "         If the computer is not idle, the CD may be ruined.\n"
> > >> 
> > >> Huh? That can't be right. Every cd burner this side of the 21st century has 
> > >> buffer underrun protection.
> > > 
> > > I'm pretty sure my FireWire CD-RW/CD-R is from
> > > another century. Not that it's unusual in 2004.
> > > 
> > >> I've burnt cds _while_ capturing and encoding 
> > >> video using truckloads of cpu and I/O without superuser privileges, had all 
> > >> the cdrecord warnings and didn't have a buffer underrun.
> > > 
> > > That's cool. My hardware won't come close to that.
> > > Burning a coaster costs money.
> > > 
> > > Let me put it this way: $$ $ $$$ $$ $ $$$ $$ $
> > > 
> > > The warning, if re-worded, will save people from
> > > frustration and wasted money.
> > 
> > Sounds good; how about something less terrifying? That warning sounds like a 
> > ruined cd is likely.
> 
> I'm not about to burn CDs trying, but I do believe
> that "a ruined cd is likely" would be accurate if I
> were to keep busy with Mozilla and such. OpenOffice
> would surely ruin a cd. Light web browsing makes my
> mp3 player skip.
> 
> Not all of us have hardware like you do. Encoding
> video is something I wouldn't bother to try, even
> without the CD burner going!
> 
> (the box isn't that old; it's fanless though)
> 

I've only created coaster _with_ the suid bit while ab^H^Husing the 
computer to do other things--like compiling a new kernel. 2.6 is much
better at setting up DMA access to the drive; 2.4 would use huge amounts
of system time (> 90%). When that happened, the system felt like it was 
out to lunch--mouse cursor updates would sometimes take >2 seconds. 
Cdrecord used more cpu if it was suid. I haven't had a problem in 2.6.
The  warning is counter to my expericnce with cdrecord. I think the
warning would be worded better as:

"Warning: Cdrecord was unable to get exclusive access to the cpu."
"Warning: This may cause Buffer underruns from other activity."

and

"Warning: Cdrecord was unable to get exclusive access to memory."
"Warning: This may cause Buffer underruns from other activity."

But drop the first one if you're on >2.6.

Thomas

  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-10  7:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 394+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-09 20:22 PATCH: cdrecord: avoiding scsi device numbering for ide devices Albert Cahalan
2004-08-09 22:59 ` Con Kolivas
2004-08-09 23:25   ` David Lang
2004-08-10  1:01   ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-10  4:47     ` Con Kolivas
2004-08-10  2:51       ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-10  7:02         ` Thomas Zimmerman [this message]
2004-08-10  8:20         ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-10 22:59         ` Jan Knutar
2004-08-11  1:09           ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-12 22:34       ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-12 23:29         ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-13  7:01           ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-10  8:16     ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-10 14:33       ` Lee Revell
2004-08-10 15:04         ` Alan Cox
2004-08-10 16:09           ` Lee Revell
2004-08-11  0:23         ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-11  3:07           ` Lee Revell
2004-08-11  7:28             ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-11  7:34               ` Lee Revell
2004-08-12 22:15   ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-10  7:59 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-10  9:42   ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-12 22:40     ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-12 23:10       ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-10  9:52   ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-10 10:03     ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-08-10 10:07     ` Prakash K. Cheemplavam
2004-08-10  9:48 ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-10 22:34 ` Jan Knutar
     [not found] <2ptdY-42Y-55@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <2uPdM-380-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <2uUwL-6VP-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <2uWfh-8jo-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <2uXl0-Gt-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]         ` <2vge2-63k-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]           ` <2vgQF-6Ai-39@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]             ` <2vipq-7O8-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]               ` <2vj2b-8md-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]                 ` <2vDtS-bq-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-08-21 15:01                   ` Pascal Schmidt
2004-08-21 15:57                     ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-21 21:42                       ` Pascal Schmidt
2004-08-22 11:56                       ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 12:14                         ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 12:52                           ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-22 13:05                             ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 16:38                               ` Horst von Brand
2004-08-22 15:11                           ` Horst von Brand
2004-08-22 18:09                             ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-22 13:13                         ` Pascal Schmidt
2004-08-22 16:00                           ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-22 16:32                             ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 17:18                               ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-22 20:27                               ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2004-08-22 21:29                               ` Julien Oster
2004-08-23 11:40                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-23 13:15                                   ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-23 18:16                               ` Kai Makisara
2004-08-24 10:22                                 ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-24 15:34                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-22 16:33                             ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-22 16:19                               ` Alan Cox
2004-08-22 17:31                                 ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-22 20:47                                   ` Alan Cox
2004-08-22 22:17                                     ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-23 12:22                                 ` Adam Sampson
2004-08-22 19:26                             ` Tonnerre
2004-08-23 20:25                               ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-23 21:01                                 ` Doug Maxey
2004-08-25 18:29                                   ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-24  2:22                                 ` Nuno Silva
2004-08-22 21:27                           ` Julien Oster
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-08-13 11:45 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-13 12:21 ` Andreas Schwab
     [not found] <20040812185302.GA18126@suse.de>
2004-08-13  2:39 ` Robert M. Stockmann
2004-08-13  5:24   ` Frank Steiner
2004-08-13 13:34     ` Robert M. Stockmann
2004-08-13 13:48       ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-13 23:50         ` Robert M. Stockmann
2004-08-16  6:48           ` Frank Steiner
2004-08-13  6:08   ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-16 12:41   ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-16 12:47     ` Robert M. Stockmann
2004-08-16 12:51       ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-16 13:32         ` Robert M. Stockmann
2004-08-17  4:01           ` Kyle Moffett
2004-08-18  0:32             ` Robert M. Stockmann
2004-08-18  5:16               ` Eric Lammerts
2004-08-18 13:43                 ` Robert M. Stockmann
2004-08-18 14:02                   ` Frank Steiner
2004-08-12  2:24 Robert M. Stockmann
2004-08-12  6:28 ` Frank Steiner
2004-08-12 13:55   ` Robert M. Stockmann
2004-08-12 14:15     ` Frank Steiner
2004-08-12  1:57 Robert M. Stockmann
2004-08-12  4:05 ` Andre Tomt
2004-08-16 18:11 ` Tomasz Torcz
2004-08-11 11:44 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 21:48 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 21:33 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-11  7:56 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2004-08-11 14:30 ` Brian Beattie
2004-08-10 15:54 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 15:44 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 16:05 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-08-11  8:25   ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-10 18:48 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-10 15:28 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-11  9:34 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2004-08-10 15:15 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 15:25 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-10 15:36 ` Martin Mares
2004-08-11  2:17 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-08-11 23:05   ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-10 14:27 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 14:49 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2004-08-10 15:24   ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-08-10 15:33     ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-10 16:29       ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-08-10 18:53         ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-10 19:01         ` Adrian Bunk
2004-08-10 20:29           ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-10 15:48     ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2004-08-10 16:10       ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-08-10 16:47         ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2004-08-10 16:52           ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2004-08-10 13:21 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 13:05 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 13:03 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 15:00 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-10 15:05   ` Chris Meadors
2004-08-26 15:02     ` Raphael Jacquot
2004-08-26 15:19       ` Chris Meadors
2004-08-10 21:02 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-08-10 12:47 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 12:57 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-10 12:46 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 12:57 ` Martin Mares
2004-08-10 13:09 ` Xavier Bestel
2004-08-10 13:18 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-08-10 12:45 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 12:57 ` Martin Mares
2004-08-10 13:51 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2004-08-10 12:41 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 13:27 ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-10 10:33 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 13:42 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2004-08-10 10:27 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 11:57 ` Martin Mares
2004-08-10 12:46 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-12 22:58   ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-10 16:28 ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-11  0:24   ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-11  3:11     ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-11 10:04     ` Florian Schirmer
2004-08-12 23:27       ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-10 10:20 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 10:19 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10 12:14 ` Martin Mares
2004-08-10 15:02 ` Lenar Lõhmus
     [not found] <200408091338.i79DcauL010369@burner.fokus.fraunhofer.de>
2004-08-09 21:10 ` Con Kolivas
2004-08-09 14:57 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 14:43 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-10  9:38 ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-09 14:40 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 14:51 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-09 16:26 ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-09 14:38 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 14:44 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-09 14:27 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 14:31 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-09 14:21 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 14:23 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-09 15:40 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-09 20:52   ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-09 14:13 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 14:21 ` Paul Jakma
2004-08-09 14:21 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-09 14:12 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 14:21 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-12 22:10   ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-13  2:34     ` Bob Tracy
2004-08-09 14:33 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-09 13:51 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 14:08 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-09 13:46 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 14:24 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2004-08-10  9:25 ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-09 13:36 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 13:54 ` Marc Ballarin
2004-08-09 14:17 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-09 12:24 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 12:39 ` Karol Kozimor
2004-08-09 13:00 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-09 13:01 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-09 14:07   ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-09 14:36 ` Eric Lammerts
2004-08-09 12:10 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 12:05 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 14:03 ` Paul Jakma
2004-08-09 11:58 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 14:32 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-09 11:56 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 10:42 ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-09 11:46 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 11:53 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-09 10:33 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 10:39 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-09 10:13 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-09 10:21 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-09 12:01   ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-09 11:09 ` Con Kolivas
2004-08-09 12:04 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2004-08-09 12:12   ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-09 12:06 ` Jesse Stockall
2004-08-10  9:12 ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-08 16:40 Albert Cahalan
2004-08-08  8:21 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-07 19:53 Albert Cahalan
2004-08-07 23:16 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-07 12:17 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-07 16:37 ` Nicholas Miell
2004-08-07 17:18 ` Nicholas Miell
2004-08-07 17:19 ` Frediano Ziglio
2004-08-07 17:37 ` V13
2004-08-09  8:13 ` Thomas Richter
2004-08-09 11:44   ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-09 10:53 ` Helge Hafting
2004-08-09 12:07   ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-07 11:28 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-07 11:40 ` Martin Mares
2004-08-08  5:53   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-08-08 13:39     ` Thomas Molina
2004-08-07 12:54 ` Jesper Juhl
2004-08-07 10:53 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-07 11:19 ` Martin Mares
2004-08-08  4:07 ` Paul Jakma
2004-08-07  0:01 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-07  0:14 ` Martin Mares
2004-08-07 17:26   ` Tim Wright
2004-08-08 21:42     ` Buddy Lumpkin
2004-08-12 21:11     ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-12 21:10       ` Martin Mares
2004-08-12 22:44       ` Marc Ballarin
2004-08-07  2:11 ` Mark Lord
2004-08-07 22:08 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-07 22:41   ` Alan Cox
2004-08-07 23:19   ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-08  2:33     ` Jan Knutar
2004-08-08  7:47       ` David Weinehall
2004-08-08  9:17         ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-06 20:26 Albert Cahalan
2004-08-06 23:35 ` Bernd Schubert
2004-08-06 14:20 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-06 14:25 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-06 14:48 ` Erik Mouw
2004-08-06 13:45 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-06 14:11 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-06 14:16 ` Erik Mouw
2004-08-06 13:30 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-06 15:10 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-10  8:41   ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-10  8:50     ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-10 10:11     ` Erik Mouw
2004-08-10 10:12       ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-10 11:02         ` Erik Mouw
2004-08-10 11:49       ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-10 13:29         ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-11 22:37           ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-06 23:15 ` Martin Mares
2004-08-07 10:31   ` V13
2004-08-12 21:03     ` Bill Davidsen
2004-08-08 16:45 ` James Bottomley
2004-08-08 17:31 ` Eric Lammerts
2004-08-06 10:18 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-06 10:42 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-06 11:37   ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-06 17:59 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2004-08-06 22:47   ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-08-08 11:15     ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2004-08-08 18:58       ` Julien Oster
2004-08-06  8:33 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-06  9:01 ` Eduard Bloch
2004-08-06  9:14 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-06 10:40 ` DervishD
2004-08-06 22:42   ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-08-10  8:15 ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-06  8:14 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-06  8:24 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-06  8:28 ` Frank Steiner
2004-08-06  8:09 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-05 13:48 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-05 15:00 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-07 15:00   ` James Bottomley
2004-08-07 15:33     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-08-05 12:49 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-05 12:57 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-05 12:45 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-05 16:40 ` David Woodhouse
2004-08-05 12:30 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-05 12:38 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-05 12:47   ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-05 12:25 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-05 12:29 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-05 16:45 ` Wakko Warner
2004-08-05 17:32   ` Måns Rullgård
2004-08-05 12:22 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-05 11:53 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-05 12:05 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-05 11:50 Joerg Schilling
2004-08-04 12:33 H.Rosmanith (Kernel Mailing List)
2004-08-04 12:43 ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-04 12:58   ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-05  0:56     ` H.Rosmanith (Kernel Mailing List)
2004-08-05  5:47       ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-05  0:25   ` H.Rosmanith (Kernel Mailing List)
2004-08-05  5:43     ` Jens Axboe
2004-08-19  7:04 ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-19 11:12   ` Wakko Warner
2004-08-19 11:32   ` Lee Revell
2004-08-19 11:43     ` Marc Ballarin
2004-08-19 12:06     ` Diego Calleja
2004-08-19 13:04       ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-20 15:10         ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2004-08-23  9:09           ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-23 21:25         ` Adrian Bunk
2004-08-19 12:42   ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-19 12:41     ` Alan Cox
2004-08-19 14:34       ` Frank Steiner
2004-08-20  8:02         ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-20 14:05           ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-20 16:43             ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-19 14:35       ` Christer Weinigel
2004-08-19 13:10     ` Martin Mares
2004-08-19 13:38       ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-19 13:56         ` Martin Mares
2004-08-19 14:03           ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-19 14:14             ` Martin Mares
2004-08-19 14:45               ` Frank Steiner
2004-08-19 15:00                 ` Martin Mares
2004-08-19 15:04                   ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-19 15:14                     ` Martin Mares
2004-08-19 15:18                       ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-19 17:32                         ` Martin Mares
2004-08-20 18:25                   ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-08-19 15:07               ` Matthias Andree
2004-08-19 15:16                 ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-19 17:30                   ` Martin Mares
2004-08-20 15:28                   ` Andreas Jaeger
2004-08-20 16:37                     ` Julien Oster
2004-08-19 15:36                 ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-19 16:00                   ` Paul Rolland
2004-08-19 17:41                     ` Gene Heskett
2004-08-19 14:29             ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-08-19 15:29           ` Andreas Jaeger
     [not found]       ` <Pine.LNX.4.60.0408191909570.23309@hermes-1.csi.cam.ac.uk>
2004-08-20 13:40         ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-19 14:14     ` Gerd Knorr
2004-08-19 14:32     ` Frank Steiner
2004-08-19 14:32       ` Alan Cox
2004-08-19 16:00         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-08-19 16:07           ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-19 17:32             ` Horst von Brand
2004-08-19 23:02               ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-08-20 13:37               ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-20 13:49                 ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-20 14:13                   ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-19 17:59             ` Alan Cox
2004-08-20 13:41               ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-20 13:09                 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-20 13:55                 ` Patrick McFarland
2004-08-20 14:24                 ` H.Rosmanith (Kernel Mailing List)
2004-08-20 14:37                   ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-20 15:05                     ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-08-20 19:28                 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-08-20 20:30                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-08-20 22:05                 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-08-20 23:30                   ` Andreas Steinmetz
2004-08-21  6:58                   ` David Greaves
2004-08-21  7:49                     ` Marc Ballarin
2004-08-21  9:04                       ` David Greaves
2004-08-21 11:19                         ` Marc Ballarin
2004-08-22 10:44                         ` Alan Cox
2004-08-22 17:09                           ` Adam Sampson
2004-08-21 11:06                     ` Xavier Bestel
2004-08-21 12:17                       ` David Greaves
2004-08-19 17:24           ` Horst von Brand
2004-08-19 18:06           ` Alan Cox
2004-08-19 19:19             ` Mark Lord
2004-08-19 22:57               ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-08-20 11:22                 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-20 11:18               ` Alan Cox
2004-08-20  7:46         ` Frank Steiner
2004-08-20 11:23           ` Alan Cox
2004-08-20 12:45             ` Frank Steiner
2004-08-20 11:51         ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-20 11:25           ` Alan Cox
2004-08-20 14:11             ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-20 13:46               ` Alan Cox
2004-08-21 12:43                 ` Joerg Schilling
     [not found]                   ` <1093171538.24341.24.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2004-08-22 12:00                     ` Joerg Schilling
2004-08-19 16:22   ` V13
2004-08-21  3:31 ` Patrick McFarland

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