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From: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@engr.sgi.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>, Jeremy Higdon <jeremy@sgi.com>,
	Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@debian.org>,
	Andrew Vasquez <andrew.vasquez@qlogic.com>,
	pj@sgi.com, SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	mdr@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, jeremy@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com,
	djh@cthulhu.engr.sgi.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Subject: Re: I/O write ordering
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 10:50:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200409221050.32314.jbarnes@engr.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1095864049.6359.2.camel@gaston>

On Wednesday, September 22, 2004 10:40 am, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 00:32, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > I'd quite like to hear opinions from the PPC and Alpha people, they seem
> > to be the most out-of-order architectures.
>
> The more specific the barrier is, the happier we are on ppc so we can
> select the right one in our collection :)
>
> Write ordering is usually just a matter of eieio. _however_ the main
> problem we have is write ordering between two different storage classes,
> that is between cacheable space and non cacheable space. Our normal
> write ordering barrier will not order between those, thus causing all
> sorts of issues with devices mixing MMIO & DMA. We have to use a more
> heavy-weight barrier in those cases, but currently, linux lacks the
> proper abstraction for that, thus we had to clutter then normal MMIO
> writes to do the big barrier each time to be safe ...

Ok, mmiob() it is then.  Patch coming shortly (I'll post it to lkml).

As for write flushing, I guess we need to document that people should read a 
safe register (or config space if there isn't one, since that's guaranteed to 
soft fail).

Thanks,
Jesse

  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-22 14:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <B179AE41C1147041AA1121F44614F0B060EF48@AVEXCH02.qlogic.org>
     [not found] ` <20040916121235.5e4f9c32.pj@sgi.com>
     [not found]   ` <1095362263.16326.12.camel@praka>
2004-09-16 19:56     ` SCSI QLA not working on latest *-mm SN2 Paul Jackson
2004-09-16 20:05       ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-16 20:56         ` Andrew Vasquez
2004-09-16 21:09           ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-16 21:40             ` Andrew Vasquez
2004-09-16 22:25               ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-16 22:29                 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-17 17:21                   ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-18  6:10                     ` Grant Grundler
2004-09-18 17:57                       ` Documentation/io_ordering.txt is wrong Matthew Wilcox
2004-09-20 23:39                         ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-21  0:38                         ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-20 22:40                       ` SCSI QLA not working on latest *-mm SN2 Jesse Barnes
2004-09-20 23:27                         ` Grant Grundler
2004-09-21  0:09                           ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-21  5:46                             ` Grant Grundler
2004-09-21  6:45                               ` Jeremy Higdon
2004-09-21 13:29                                 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-21 13:25                               ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-21 15:13                               ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-21 15:41                                 ` James Bottomley
2004-09-21 15:58                                   ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-21 16:01                                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-09-21 16:05                                       ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-21 16:11                                         ` James Bottomley
2004-09-21 16:18                                           ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-21 16:24                                             ` James Bottomley
2004-09-21 17:03                                           ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-21 17:15                                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-09-21 17:24                                               ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-21 17:20                                             ` James Bottomley
2004-09-21 17:46                                               ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-21 17:56                                                 ` James Bottomley
2004-09-21 18:09                                                   ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-21 19:06                                                     ` Grant Grundler
2004-09-21 19:40                                                       ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-21 22:44                                                         ` Grant Grundler
2004-09-21 21:03                                                       ` Jeremy Higdon
2004-09-21 21:11                                                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-09-21 21:43                                                           ` Jeremy Higdon
2004-09-21 22:33                                                             ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-22  0:02                                                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-09-22  1:16                                                               ` Jeremy Higdon
2004-09-22  1:44                                                                 ` Grant Grundler
2004-09-22  2:58                                                                   ` Jeremy Higdon
2004-09-22 14:32                                                                     ` I/O write ordering Matthew Wilcox
2004-09-22 14:40                                                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-22 14:50                                                                         ` Jesse Barnes [this message]
2004-09-22 14:47                                                                       ` James Bottomley
2004-09-22 14:51                                                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-22 15:11                                                                           ` James Bottomley
2004-09-22 15:11                                                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-22 15:22                                                                               ` James Bottomley
2004-09-22 15:28                                                                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-22 15:43                                                                                   ` James Bottomley
2004-09-23  0:19                                                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-23  1:58                                                                                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-09-23  3:01                                                                                         ` James Bottomley
2004-09-23  3:40                                                                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-23  4:26                                                                                             ` Grant Grundler
2004-09-21 23:03                             ` SCSI QLA not working on latest *-mm SN2 Guennadi Liakhovetski
2004-09-16 23:14           ` Jeremy Higdon
2004-09-16 20:11       ` Andrew Morton

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