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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@novell.com>
To: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Cc: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>,
	Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@sgi.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove OOM killer from try_to_free_pages / all_unreclaimable braindamage
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 16:29:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041106152903.GA3851@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0411060944150.2721-100000@localhost.localdomain>

On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 09:47:56AM +0000, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> Problematic, yes: don't overlook that GFP_REPEAT and GFP_NOFAIL _can_
> fail, returning NULL: when the process is being OOM-killed (PF_MEMDIE).

that looks weird, why that? The oom killer must be robust against a task
not going anyway regardless of this (task can be stuck in nfs or
similar). If a fail path ever existed, __GFP_NOFAIL should not have been
used in the first place. I don't see many valid excuses to use
__GFP_NOFAIL if we can return NULL without the caller running into an
infinite loop.

btw, PF_MEMDIE has always been racy in the way it's being set, so it can
corrupt the p->flags, but the race window is very small to trigger it
(and even if it triggers, it probably wouldn't be fatal). That's why I
don't use PF_MEMDIE in 2.4-aa.

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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@novell.com>
To: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Cc: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>,
	Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@sgi.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove OOM killer from try_to_free_pages / all_unreclaimable braindamage
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 16:29:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041106152903.GA3851@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0411060944150.2721-100000@localhost.localdomain>

On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 09:47:56AM +0000, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> Problematic, yes: don't overlook that GFP_REPEAT and GFP_NOFAIL _can_
> fail, returning NULL: when the process is being OOM-killed (PF_MEMDIE).

that looks weird, why that? The oom killer must be robust against a task
not going anyway regardless of this (task can be stuck in nfs or
similar). If a fail path ever existed, __GFP_NOFAIL should not have been
used in the first place. I don't see many valid excuses to use
__GFP_NOFAIL if we can return NULL without the caller running into an
infinite loop.

btw, PF_MEMDIE has always been racy in the way it's being set, so it can
corrupt the p->flags, but the race window is very small to trigger it
(and even if it triggers, it probably wouldn't be fatal). That's why I
don't use PF_MEMDIE in 2.4-aa.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-11-06 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-05 20:01 [PATCH] Remove OOM killer from try_to_free_pages / all_unreclaimable braindamage Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-05 20:01 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-05 23:32 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-11-05 23:47   ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-05 23:47     ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-06  1:20   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06  1:20     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06  1:26     ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-06  1:26       ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-06  1:36       ` Jesse Barnes
2004-11-06  1:36         ` Jesse Barnes
2004-11-06  1:50       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06  1:50         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06  9:47         ` Hugh Dickins
2004-11-06  9:47           ` Hugh Dickins
2004-11-06 10:53           ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-06 10:53             ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-06 15:29             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 15:29               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 15:29           ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2004-11-06 15:29             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 16:21             ` Hugh Dickins
2004-11-06 16:21               ` Hugh Dickins
2004-12-10  6:02               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-10  6:02                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-11-06 11:37         ` Nikita Danilov
2004-11-06 11:37           ` Nikita Danilov
2004-11-06 15:32           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 15:32             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 16:54             ` Nikita Danilov
2004-11-06 16:54               ` Nikita Danilov
2004-11-06 17:44               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 17:44                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 19:24                 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-11-06 19:24                   ` Nikita Danilov
2004-11-07  1:16                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-07  1:16                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 10:11       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-06 10:11         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-06  1:55     ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-06  1:55       ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-06 10:28       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-06 10:28         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-17 22:54       ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-17 22:54         ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-17 23:27         ` Chris Ross
2004-11-17 23:27           ` Chris Ross
2004-11-18  0:04           ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-18  0:04             ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-18  0:28             ` Chris Ross
2004-11-18  0:28               ` Chris Ross
2004-11-18  1:14               ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-18  1:14                 ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-18  8:20                 ` Chris Ross
2004-11-18  8:20                   ` Chris Ross
2004-11-18 10:01                   ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-18 10:01                     ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-18 14:44                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-18 14:44                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-18 15:10                       ` Chris Friesen
2004-11-18 15:10                         ` Chris Friesen
2004-11-06 10:05     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-06 10:05       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-06 15:44       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 15:44         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-06 15:52         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-11-06 15:52           ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-11-06 17:09         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-06 17:09           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-07  0:48           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-07  0:48             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-11-07 11:21             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-07 11:21               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-06 12:53 ` [PATCH] Remove OOM killer Andries Brouwer
2004-11-06 12:53   ` Andries Brouwer
2004-11-06 10:41   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-06 10:41     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-07  9:26   ` Marko Macek
2004-11-07  9:26     ` Marko Macek
2004-11-07 11:34     ` memory overcommit (was: [PATCH] Remove OOM killer ...) Anton Ertl
2004-11-08 16:27 ` [PATCH] Remove OOM killer from try_to_free_pages / all_unreclaimable braindamage Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-08 16:27   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-08 18:55   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-09  2:22     ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-09  2:35       ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-09  2:46         ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-09  7:18           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-09  7:15         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-11-10  1:11           ` Nick Piggin
     [not found] <fa.ev73q5c.ejcnom@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.es1mdq5.76ib8j@ifi.uio.no>
2004-11-18 20:48   ` Bodo Eggert
2004-11-18 21:15     ` Werner Almesberger
2004-11-19  1:05       ` Bodo Eggert
2004-11-19  0:15     ` Andreas Dilger

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