From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH][5/?] count writeback pages in nr_scanned
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:06:51 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050105180651.GD4597@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050105020859.3192a298.akpm@osdl.org>
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 02:08:59AM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > Still untested, but posting the concept here anyway, since this
> > could explain a lot...
> >
> > OOM kills have been observed with 70% of the pages in lowmem being
> > in the writeback state. If we count those pages in sc->nr_scanned,
> > the VM should throttle and wait for IO completion, instead of OOM
> > killing.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> >
> > --- linux-2.6.9/mm/vmscan.c.screclaim 2005-01-03 12:17:56.547148905 -0500
> > +++ linux-2.6.9/mm/vmscan.c 2005-01-03 12:18:16.855965416 -0500
> > @@ -376,10 +376,10 @@
> >
> > BUG_ON(PageActive(page));
> >
> > + sc->nr_scanned++;
> > if (PageWriteback(page))
> > goto keep_locked;
> >
> > - sc->nr_scanned++;
>
> Patch looks very sane. It in fact restores that which we were doing until
> 12 June 2004, when the rampant `struct scan_control' depredations violated
> the tree.
Agreed.
Another unrelated problem I have in this same area and that can explain
VM troubles at least theoretically, is that blk_congestion_wait is
broken by design. First we cannot wait on random I/O not related to
write back. Second blk_congestion_wait gets trivially fooled by
direct-io for example. Plus the timeout may cause it to return too early
with slow blkdev.
blk_congestion_wait is a fundamental piece to get oom detection right
during writeback and unfortunately it's fundamentally fragile in 2.6
(this as usual wasn't the case in 2.4).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-01-05 18:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-01-03 17:25 [PATCH][5/?] count writeback pages in nr_scanned Rik van Riel
2005-01-05 10:08 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-05 18:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2005-01-05 18:50 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-05 17:49 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-05 21:44 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-05 20:32 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-05 23:51 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 1:27 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-06 1:33 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 1:37 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 1:40 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 1:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 1:36 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 3:42 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-06 3:50 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 4:26 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 4:35 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 4:47 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 4:55 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 5:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 8:06 ` Jens Axboe
2005-01-06 8:16 ` memory barrier in ll_rw_blk.c (was Re: [PATCH][5/?] count writeback pages in nr_scanned) Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 8:32 ` Jens Axboe
2005-01-06 8:53 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 12:00 ` Jens Axboe
2005-01-06 4:59 ` [PATCH][5/?] count writeback pages in nr_scanned Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:05 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 5:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:19 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 5:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:36 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 5:44 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 5:37 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 5:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 13:28 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-06 5:32 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 5:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:59 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 6:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:06 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 5:21 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-05 23:26 ` Andrew Morton
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