From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
riel@redhat.com, andrea@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][5/?] count writeback pages in nr_scanned
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 10:51:34 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <41DC7D86.8050609@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050105203217.GB17265@logos.cnet>
Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>>The caller would need to wait on all the zones which can satisfy the
>>caller's allocation request. A bit messy, although not rocket science.
>>One would have to be careful to avoid additional CPU consumption due to
>>delivery of multiple wakeups at each I/O completion.
>>
>>We should be able to demonstrate that such a change really fixes some
>>problem though. Otherwise, why bother?
>
>
> Agreed. The current scheme works well enough, we dont have spurious OOM kills
> anymore, which is the only "problem" such change ought to fix.
>
> You might have performance increase in some situations I believe (because you
> have perzone waitqueues), but I agree its does not seem to be worth the
> trouble.
I think what Andrea is worried about is that blk_congestion_wait is
fairly vague, and can be a source of instability in the scanning
implementation.
For example, if you have a heavy IO workload that is saturating your
disks, blk_congestion_wait may do the right thing and sleep until
they become uncongested and writeout can continue.
But at 2:00 am, when your backup job is trickling writes into another
block device, blk_congestion_wait returns much earlier, and before
many pages have been cleaned.
Bad example? Yeah maybe, but I think this is what Andrea is getting
at. Would it be a problem to replace those blk_congestion_waits with
unconditional io_schedule_timeout()s? That would be the dumb-but-more
-deterministic solution.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-01-05 23:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-01-03 17:25 [PATCH][5/?] count writeback pages in nr_scanned Rik van Riel
2005-01-05 10:08 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-05 18:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-05 18:50 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-05 17:49 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-05 21:44 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-05 20:32 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-01-05 23:51 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-01-06 1:27 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-06 1:33 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 1:37 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 1:40 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 1:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 1:36 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 3:42 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-06 3:50 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 4:26 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 4:35 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 4:47 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 4:55 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 5:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 8:06 ` Jens Axboe
2005-01-06 8:16 ` memory barrier in ll_rw_blk.c (was Re: [PATCH][5/?] count writeback pages in nr_scanned) Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 8:32 ` Jens Axboe
2005-01-06 8:53 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 12:00 ` Jens Axboe
2005-01-06 4:59 ` [PATCH][5/?] count writeback pages in nr_scanned Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:05 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 5:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:19 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 5:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:36 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 5:44 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 5:37 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 5:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 13:28 ` Rik van Riel
2005-01-06 5:32 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 5:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:59 ` Andrew Morton
2005-01-06 6:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-06 5:06 ` Nick Piggin
2005-01-06 5:21 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-01-05 23:26 ` Andrew Morton
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