From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>,
Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
David McCullough <davidm@snapgear.com>,
cryptoapi@lists.logix.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
James Morris <jmorris@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] API for true Random Number Generators to add entropy (2.6.11)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:23:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050329102314.GC6496@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050325072531.GA416@gondor.apana.org.au>
Hi!
On Pá 25-03-05 18:25:31, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 10:19:55AM +0300, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> >
> > Noone will complain on Linux if NIC is broken and produces wrong
> > checksum
> > and HW checksum offloading is enabled using ethtools.
>
> This is completely different. The worst that can happen with checksum
> offloading is that the packet is dropped. That's something people deal
> with on a daily basis since the Internet as a whole does not guarantee
> the delivery of packets.
>
> On the other hand, /dev/random is something that has always promised
> to deliver random numbers that are totally unpredictable. People out
> there *depend* on this.
>
> If that assumption is violated the result could be catastrophic.
Yes, and we had huge security hole where it sometimes gave same random
data to two different processes on smp, and noone noticed for 10
years.... /dev/random is not as critical as you paint it.
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-03-29 10:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-15 13:36 ocf-linux-20050315 - Asynchronous Crypto support for linux David McCullough
2005-03-24 4:27 ` [PATCH] API for true Random Number Generators to add entropy (2.6.11) David McCullough
2005-03-24 4:30 ` [PATCH] API for true Random Number Generators to add entropy (2.4.29) David McCullough
2005-03-24 4:33 ` [PATCH] API for true Random Number Generators to add entropy (2.6.11) Jeff Garzik
2005-03-24 4:46 ` David McCullough
2005-03-24 4:49 ` Michal Ludvig
2005-03-24 5:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-24 12:37 ` Folkert van Heusden
2005-03-24 12:52 ` David McCullough
2005-03-24 20:51 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-24 7:18 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-03-24 7:37 ` Dave Jones
2005-03-24 4:38 ` [PATCH] " Andrew Morton
2005-03-24 5:17 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-24 5:32 ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-29 1:33 ` Matt Mackall
2005-03-24 5:43 ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-03-24 12:21 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-24 20:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-25 4:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-25 4:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-25 5:46 ` Herbert Xu
2005-03-31 3:52 ` David McCullough
2005-03-31 13:58 ` [PATCH] API for TRNG (2.6.11) [Fortuna] Jean-Luc Cooke
2005-04-13 15:36 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2005-03-24 12:28 ` [PATCH 2.6.12-rc1] API for true Random Number Generators to add entropy David McCullough
2005-03-24 12:38 ` [PATCH] API for true Random Number Generators to add entropy (2.6.11) David McCullough
2005-03-24 18:51 ` Andi Kleen
2005-03-24 20:37 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-27 17:19 ` Andi Kleen
2005-03-27 18:55 ` folkert
2005-03-28 15:20 ` Andi Kleen
2005-03-28 15:24 ` folkert
2005-03-29 7:17 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-29 15:03 ` Andi Kleen
2005-03-29 7:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-29 15:07 ` Andi Kleen
2005-03-29 7:15 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-24 11:59 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-24 12:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-24 13:08 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-24 20:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-24 13:23 ` David McCullough
2005-03-24 13:46 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-24 20:56 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-25 4:34 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-25 4:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-25 5:33 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-25 5:58 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-25 6:16 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-25 6:13 ` Herbert Xu
2005-03-25 6:34 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-25 6:33 ` Herbert Xu
2005-03-25 6:59 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-25 6:56 ` Herbert Xu
2005-03-25 7:19 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-25 7:19 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-25 7:38 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-25 7:25 ` Herbert Xu
2005-03-25 7:58 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
[not found] ` <424495A8.40804@freescale.com>
2005-03-25 23:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-25 23:47 ` Herbert Xu
2005-03-26 0:47 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-26 0:36 ` Herbert Xu
2005-03-26 8:52 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-28 13:45 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2005-03-28 21:30 ` Herbert Xu
2005-03-29 10:23 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2005-03-29 10:21 ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-29 10:30 ` Herbert Xu
2005-03-29 10:38 ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-29 10:45 ` Herbert Xu
2005-03-29 10:50 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-29 10:46 ` Herbert Xu
2005-03-29 11:42 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-29 11:39 ` Herbert Xu
2005-03-29 12:15 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-29 12:13 ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-29 12:43 ` Herbert Xu
2005-03-29 13:11 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-29 14:38 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-03-29 13:48 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2005-03-29 23:36 ` Andrew James Wade
2005-03-29 22:02 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-03-29 22:24 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-03-29 22:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-30 21:22 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-03-30 21:49 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-30 22:27 ` Paul Jackson
2005-03-29 10:18 ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-29 10:25 ` Herbert Xu
2005-03-29 10:53 ` Martin Mares
2005-03-24 20:54 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-24 14:25 ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2005-03-24 20:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-24 21:20 ` Herbert Xu
2005-03-25 5:52 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
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