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From: linas@austin.ibm.com (Linas Vepstas)
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: "Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	Yanmin Zhang <yanmin.zhang@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rajesh Shah <rajesh.shah@intel.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org,
	linux-pci maillist <linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>
Subject: Re: pci error recovery procedure
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:50:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060905185020.GD7139@austin.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1157360592.22705.46.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 07:03:12PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> 
> > As you know, all functions of a device share the same bus number and 5 bit dev number.
> > They just have different 3 bit function number. We could deduce if functions are in the same
> > device (slot).
> 
> Until you have a P2P bridge ...

And this is not theoretical: for example, the matrox graphics cards:

0000:c8:01.0 PCI bridge: Hint Corp HB6 Universal PCI-PCI bridge (non-transparent mode) (rev 13)
0000:c9:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400 AGP (rev 85)

Now, I could have sworn there was another device behind this bridge, 
some serial or joystick controller or something, although this
particular card doesn't seem to have it.

------
It's not clear to me what hardware may show up in the future. 
For example, someone may build a 32x PCI-E card that will act 
as a bridge to a drawer with half-a-dozen ordinary PCI-X slots 
in it. This is perhaps a bit hypothetical, but changing the API 
will make it harder to implement eror recovery for such a system.

FWIW, there is at least one pSeries system in the lab which has
several hundred PCI slots attached to it, although I've never 
done testing on it. Hmm. Maybe its time I did ... 

--linas

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From: linas@austin.ibm.com (Linas Vepstas)
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: "Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org,
	linux-pci maillist <linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>,
	Yanmin Zhang <yanmin.zhang@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rajesh Shah <rajesh.shah@intel.com>
Subject: Re: pci error recovery procedure
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:50:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060905185020.GD7139@austin.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1157360592.22705.46.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 07:03:12PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> 
> > As you know, all functions of a device share the same bus number and 5 bit dev number.
> > They just have different 3 bit function number. We could deduce if functions are in the same
> > device (slot).
> 
> Until you have a P2P bridge ...

And this is not theoretical: for example, the matrox graphics cards:

0000:c8:01.0 PCI bridge: Hint Corp HB6 Universal PCI-PCI bridge (non-transparent mode) (rev 13)
0000:c9:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400 AGP (rev 85)

Now, I could have sworn there was another device behind this bridge, 
some serial or joystick controller or something, although this
particular card doesn't seem to have it.

------
It's not clear to me what hardware may show up in the future. 
For example, someone may build a 32x PCI-E card that will act 
as a bridge to a drawer with half-a-dozen ordinary PCI-X slots 
in it. This is perhaps a bit hypothetical, but changing the API 
will make it harder to implement eror recovery for such a system.

FWIW, there is at least one pSeries system in the lab which has
several hundred PCI slots attached to it, although I've never 
done testing on it. Hmm. Maybe its time I did ... 

--linas


  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-09-05 18:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1157008212.20092.36.camel@ymzhang-perf.sh.intel.com>
2006-08-31 17:50 ` pci error recovery procedure Linas Vepstas
2006-09-01  3:33   ` Zhang, Yanmin
2006-09-01 21:25     ` Linas Vepstas
2006-09-01 21:25       ` Linas Vepstas
2006-09-04  5:47       ` Zhang, Yanmin
2006-09-04  5:47         ` Zhang, Yanmin
2006-09-04  9:03         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-04  9:03           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-05  2:32           ` Zhang, Yanmin
2006-09-05  2:32             ` Zhang, Yanmin
2006-09-05 19:01             ` Linas Vepstas
2006-09-05 19:01               ` Linas Vepstas
2006-09-06  1:26               ` Zhang, Yanmin
2006-09-06  1:26                 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2006-09-06 20:01                 ` Linas Vepstas
2006-09-06 20:01                   ` Linas Vepstas
2006-09-07  1:56                   ` Zhang, Yanmin
2006-09-07  1:56                     ` Zhang, Yanmin
2006-09-05 18:50           ` Linas Vepstas [this message]
2006-09-05 18:50             ` Linas Vepstas
2006-09-05 21:19             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-05 21:19               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-09-06  1:35             ` Zhang, Yanmin
2006-09-06  1:35               ` Zhang, Yanmin
2006-09-05 19:17         ` Linas Vepstas
2006-09-05 19:17           ` Linas Vepstas
2006-09-06  2:04           ` Zhang, Yanmin
2006-09-06  2:04             ` Zhang, Yanmin
2006-09-06 20:39             ` Linas Vepstas
2006-09-06 20:39               ` Linas Vepstas
2006-09-07  3:18               ` Zhang, Yanmin
2006-09-07  3:18                 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2006-09-12 19:38                 ` Linas Vepstas
2006-09-12 19:38                   ` Linas Vepstas
2006-09-01  3:42   ` Zhang, Yanmin
2006-09-01  3:42     ` Zhang, Yanmin
2006-09-01  9:04     ` Zhang, Yanmin
2006-09-01  9:04       ` Zhang, Yanmin
2006-09-01 21:32       ` Linas Vepstas
2006-09-01 21:32         ` Linas Vepstas

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