From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: remove global locks from mm/highmem.c
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:48:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070128154806.GA10615@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070128152858.GA23410@infradead.org>
* Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 04:17:00PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > scalability. I did lock profiling on the -rt kernel, which exposes
> > such things nicely. Half of the lock contention events during kernel
> > compile were due to kmap(). (The system had 2 GB of RAM, so 40%
> > lowmem, 60% highmem.)
>
> Numbers please, and not on -rt but on mainline. Please show the
> profiles.
i'm sorry, but do you realize that files_lock is a global lock,
triggered by /every single/ file close?
" files_lock is a global lock and we touch it for every single
sys_close() system call that the system does. "
You really dont need to be a rocket scientist to see that it's a
globally bouncing cacheline that has a major effect on certain
VFS-intense workloads. Peter has worked hard to eliminate its effects
without having to couple this to an intrusive rewrite of the TTY layer.
( really, i personally find your dismissive style apalling and i think
such a reception of a nice patchset must be humiliating to Peter. I
certainly try to avoid to be involved with any VFS internals, due to
this unwelcoming tone of discussion. Had you been around when i
started contributing to the Linux kernel i'd probably not be hacking
the kernel today. You are a good hacker but the simultaneous
collateral damage you are causing is significantly reducing the net
benefit. )
> > ps. please fix your mailer to not emit Mail-Followup-To headers. In
> > Mutt you can do this via "set followup_to=no" in your .muttrc.
>
> I have told you last time that this is absolutely intentional and I
> won't change it.
( You are messing up the reply headers, everyone is listed in the 'To:'
field for any reply to your mail, instead of being added to the Cc:
list. )
Ingo
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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: remove global locks from mm/highmem.c
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:48:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070128154806.GA10615@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070128152858.GA23410@infradead.org>
* Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 04:17:00PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > scalability. I did lock profiling on the -rt kernel, which exposes
> > such things nicely. Half of the lock contention events during kernel
> > compile were due to kmap(). (The system had 2 GB of RAM, so 40%
> > lowmem, 60% highmem.)
>
> Numbers please, and not on -rt but on mainline. Please show the
> profiles.
i'm sorry, but do you realize that files_lock is a global lock,
triggered by /every single/ file close?
" files_lock is a global lock and we touch it for every single
sys_close() system call that the system does. "
You really dont need to be a rocket scientist to see that it's a
globally bouncing cacheline that has a major effect on certain
VFS-intense workloads. Peter has worked hard to eliminate its effects
without having to couple this to an intrusive rewrite of the TTY layer.
( really, i personally find your dismissive style apalling and i think
such a reception of a nice patchset must be humiliating to Peter. I
certainly try to avoid to be involved with any VFS internals, due to
this unwelcoming tone of discussion. Had you been around when i
started contributing to the Linux kernel i'd probably not be hacking
the kernel today. You are a good hacker but the simultaneous
collateral damage you are causing is significantly reducing the net
benefit. )
> > ps. please fix your mailer to not emit Mail-Followup-To headers. In
> > Mutt you can do this via "set followup_to=no" in your .muttrc.
>
> I have told you last time that this is absolutely intentional and I
> won't change it.
( You are messing up the reply headers, everyone is listed in the 'To:'
field for any reply to your mail, instead of being added to the Cc:
list. )
Ingo
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-01-28 15:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-01-28 14:11 [PATCH] mm: remove global locks from mm/highmem.c Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-28 14:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-28 14:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-01-28 14:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-01-28 15:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-28 15:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-28 15:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-01-28 15:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-01-28 15:48 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-01-28 15:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-28 15:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-01-28 15:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-01-28 18:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-28 18:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-28 22:29 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-28 22:29 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-29 2:52 ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-29 2:52 ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-29 9:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-29 9:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-30 1:31 ` Martin J. Bligh
2007-01-30 1:31 ` Martin J. Bligh
2007-01-30 1:41 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-30 1:41 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-30 1:49 ` Martin J. Bligh
2007-01-30 1:49 ` Martin J. Bligh
2007-01-30 2:15 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-30 2:15 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-31 0:44 ` David Chinner
2007-01-31 0:44 ` David Chinner
2007-01-31 1:11 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-31 1:11 ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-31 3:22 ` David Chinner
2007-01-31 3:22 ` David Chinner
2007-02-02 12:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-02-02 12:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-02-02 19:24 ` Matt Mackall
2007-02-02 19:24 ` Matt Mackall
2007-02-02 23:16 ` David Chinner
2007-02-02 23:16 ` David Chinner
2007-02-02 23:14 ` David Chinner
2007-02-02 23:14 ` David Chinner
2007-01-29 19:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-29 19:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-29 19:19 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-01-29 19:19 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-01-29 19:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-29 19:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-29 20:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-29 20:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-30 2:02 ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-30 2:02 ` Nick Piggin
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