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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	linux acpi <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	dbrownell@users.sourceforge.net, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [RFD] How to tell ACPI drivers what the target sleep state is (was: Re: [PATCH 1/2] acpi choose sleep state help)
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:36:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200706201636.41834.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0706201006190.3311-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

On Wednesday, 20 June 2007 16:08, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> 
> > > Not. Could pm_message_t have a member indicating the suspend state?
> > 
> > Well, I thought about that, but I did't know what people on linux-pm would
> > think about that.
> > 
> > Alternatively, we could introduce a pm_target() global PM operation that will
> > set the target sleep state for the entire system.
> > 
> > I think we should discuss that on linux-pm before any decision is made.
> 
> Pardon me for asking what may be a dumb question.  Why does ACPI (or
> anything else) need to know the target system state in order to decide
> how a device should be suspended or whether wakeup should be enabled?

The question isn't so dumb. ;-)

For each device (handled by it) ACPI defines _SxD and _SxW methods returning
the highest power (lowest number) D-state supported by the device in the
(system-wide) state Sx and the lowest power (highest number) D-state in which
the device can wake up the system being in the Sx sleep state, respectively.
The target power state of the device should be determined on the basis of these
values (along with the device's wake up setting) and they depend on the target
system sleep state.

Greetings,
Rafael


-- 
"Premature optimization is the root of all evil." - Donald Knuth

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-06-20 14:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-19  2:33 [PATCH 1/2] acpi choose sleep state help Shaohua Li
2007-06-19 11:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-19 22:00   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-20  6:18   ` Shaohua Li
2007-06-20 11:32     ` [RFD] How to tell ACPI drivers what the target sleep state is (was: Re: [PATCH 1/2] acpi choose sleep state help) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-20 11:32     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-20 14:08       ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-06-20 14:36         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-20 14:36         ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2007-06-21  6:57         ` David Brownell
2007-06-20 14:08       ` Alan Stern
2007-06-21  1:51       ` Len Brown
2007-06-21  1:51       ` Len Brown
2007-06-21  7:10         ` David Brownell
2007-06-21  7:04       ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 12:42         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 12:42         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 13:03           ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-21 14:46             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 14:46             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 15:23               ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-06-21 19:41                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 19:41                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 15:23               ` Alan Stern
2007-06-21 16:35               ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 19:42                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 19:42                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 16:35               ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 15:37             ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 18:59               ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2007-06-21 20:03                 ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 20:37                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:37                   ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:03                 ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 18:59               ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-21 19:52               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 19:52               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 15:37             ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 13:03           ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-21 14:48           ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 14:48           ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 20:04             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:22               ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 20:22               ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 20:41                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:41                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:04             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 15:56         ` Alan Stern
2007-06-21 16:35           ` [linux-pm] " David Brownell
2007-06-21 17:11             ` Alan Stern
2007-06-21 18:02               ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 18:02               ` [linux-pm] " David Brownell
2007-06-21 18:51                 ` Alan Stern
2007-06-21 19:51                   ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 20:35                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:35                     ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:46                       ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 20:46                       ` [linux-pm] " David Brownell
2007-06-21 21:02                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 21:04                           ` Alan Stern
2007-06-21 21:04                           ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-06-23 22:00                             ` [RFC][PATCH -mm] PM: Introduce set_target method in pm_ops Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-23 23:46                               ` Alan Stern
2007-06-24  0:03                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-24  0:28                                   ` Alan Stern
2007-06-24  9:52                                     ` [linux-pm] " Johannes Berg
2007-06-24  9:52                                     ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-24 11:49                                     ` [linux-pm] " Igor Stoppa
2007-06-24 13:04                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-24 13:04                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-24 11:49                                     ` Igor Stoppa
2007-06-24 12:57                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-25  0:01                                       ` David Brownell
2007-06-25 22:14                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-25 22:14                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-25  0:01                                       ` David Brownell
2007-06-24 12:57                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-24  0:28                                   ` Alan Stern
2007-06-25 13:04                                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 13:04                                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 13:57                                     ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-06-25 13:57                                     ` [linux-pm] " Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-06-25 19:28                                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 19:28                                       ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 22:16                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-25 22:16                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-24  0:03                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-23 23:46                               ` Alan Stern
2007-06-23 22:00                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 21:02                         ` Re: [RFD] How to tell ACPI drivers what the target sleep state is (was: Re: [PATCH 1/2] acpi choose sleep state help) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 21:00                     ` Platform-specific system power states Alan Stern
2007-06-22 19:49                       ` David Brownell
2007-06-22 21:30                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-23  1:32                           ` Alan Stern
2007-06-23 20:20                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-25  0:10                               ` David Brownell
2007-06-25 22:59                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-25  0:26                           ` David Brownell
2007-06-25 23:04                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 19:51                   ` Re: [RFD] How to tell ACPI drivers what the target sleep state is (was: Re: [PATCH 1/2] acpi choose sleep state help) David Brownell
2007-06-21 20:19                   ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:32                     ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 20:50                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:50                       ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:32                     ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 20:19                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 18:51                 ` Alan Stern
2007-06-21 17:11             ` Alan Stern
2007-06-21 16:35           ` David Brownell
2007-06-20 11:32     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21  7:14     ` [PATCH 1/2] acpi choose sleep state help David Brownell

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