From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
linux acpi <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] Re: [RFD] How to tell ACPI drivers what the target sleep state is (was: Re: [PATCH 1/2] acpi choose sleep state help)
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:32:22 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200706211332.23466.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200706212219.52699.rjw@sisk.pl>
On Thursday 21 June 2007, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> platform->lowest_power_state_the_device_can_be_in(dev, wakeup)
>
> and
>
> platform->highest_power_state_the_device_can_be_in(dev)
>
> where 'wakeup' tells the platform whether we want this device to be able to
> wake up the system.
That won't work well except with ACPI, since few systems centralize
that knowledge. Like ACPI does with AML ... but mostly for PCI.
Look at your average SOC chip spec and you'll see a lot of information
that lives most naturally in the device drivers, or sometimes in the
clock framework.
> pm_ops->prepare() is now called after the drivers' .suspend() routines have
> been executed, so the ACPI core, for example, has no means of learning what
> the next system state will be until all devices have been suspended.
Well that's a design mistake. Remember that those suspend() methods
need to know the target system states, so that they can call the right
"_SxD" and "_SxW" methods. There needs to be *SOME* call into the
platform code that can be used to track "x" for ACPI ... or whatever
is needed on other platforms.
What is "now" by the way ... something in the MM tree? Or did that
sneak in while I wasn't looking?
- Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-21 20:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-19 2:33 [PATCH 1/2] acpi choose sleep state help Shaohua Li
2007-06-19 11:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-19 22:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-20 6:18 ` Shaohua Li
2007-06-20 11:32 ` [RFD] How to tell ACPI drivers what the target sleep state is (was: Re: [PATCH 1/2] acpi choose sleep state help) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-20 11:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-20 14:08 ` Alan Stern
2007-06-20 14:08 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-06-20 14:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-20 14:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 6:57 ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 1:51 ` Len Brown
2007-06-21 7:10 ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 1:51 ` Len Brown
2007-06-21 7:04 ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 12:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 12:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 13:03 ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-21 13:03 ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-21 14:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 14:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 15:23 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-06-21 19:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 19:41 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 15:23 ` Alan Stern
2007-06-21 16:35 ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 16:35 ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 19:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 19:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 15:37 ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 18:59 ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-21 18:59 ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2007-06-21 20:03 ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 20:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:03 ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 19:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 19:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 15:37 ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 14:48 ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 14:48 ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 20:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:22 ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 20:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:22 ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 20:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 15:56 ` Alan Stern
2007-06-21 16:35 ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 16:35 ` [linux-pm] " David Brownell
2007-06-21 17:11 ` Alan Stern
2007-06-21 17:11 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-06-21 18:02 ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 18:51 ` Alan Stern
2007-06-21 19:51 ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 19:51 ` [linux-pm] " David Brownell
2007-06-21 20:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:35 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:46 ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 21:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 21:02 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 21:04 ` Alan Stern
2007-06-21 21:04 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-06-23 22:00 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm] PM: Introduce set_target method in pm_ops Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-23 22:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-23 23:46 ` Alan Stern
2007-06-23 23:46 ` Alan Stern
2007-06-24 0:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-24 0:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-24 0:28 ` Alan Stern
2007-06-24 9:52 ` [linux-pm] " Johannes Berg
2007-06-24 9:52 ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-24 11:49 ` [linux-pm] " Igor Stoppa
2007-06-24 13:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-24 13:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-24 11:49 ` Igor Stoppa
2007-06-24 12:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-24 12:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-25 0:01 ` David Brownell
2007-06-25 0:01 ` David Brownell
2007-06-25 22:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-25 22:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-24 0:28 ` Alan Stern
2007-06-25 13:04 ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 13:57 ` [linux-pm] " Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-06-25 19:28 ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 19:28 ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 22:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-25 22:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-25 13:57 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-06-25 13:04 ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-21 20:46 ` Re: [RFD] How to tell ACPI drivers what the target sleep state is (was: Re: [PATCH 1/2] acpi choose sleep state help) David Brownell
2007-06-21 21:00 ` Platform-specific system power states Alan Stern
2007-06-22 19:49 ` David Brownell
2007-06-22 21:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-23 1:32 ` Alan Stern
2007-06-23 20:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-25 0:10 ` David Brownell
2007-06-25 22:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-25 0:26 ` David Brownell
2007-06-25 23:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:19 ` Re: [RFD] How to tell ACPI drivers what the target sleep state is (was: Re: [PATCH 1/2] acpi choose sleep state help) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:19 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:32 ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 20:32 ` David Brownell [this message]
2007-06-21 20:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:50 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 18:51 ` Alan Stern
2007-06-21 18:02 ` David Brownell
2007-06-20 11:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 7:14 ` [PATCH 1/2] acpi choose sleep state help David Brownell
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