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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	linux acpi <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFD] How to tell ACPI drivers what the target sleep state is (was: Re: [PATCH 1/2] acpi choose sleep state help)
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:52:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200706212152.26558.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200706210837.29857.david-b@pacbell.net>

On Thursday, 21 June 2007 17:37, David Brownell wrote:
> 
> > > IMO it can be done in two different ways:
> > > 1) via a .suspend() argument
> > > 2) via a global variable that the drivers can read.
> 
> For sufficiently small values of "two" that is.  
> 
> Other solutions that have been described on the PM list include
> 
>   3) Providing accessors to the information actually needed
>      in drivers ... e.g. say whether this clock or power domain
>      will be available in that target state.

Well, you need to store that information somewhere.  The way in which
it will be provided to drivers is a secondary thing.

To me, the most important question is whether we want to pass that information
as a .suspend() argument or in any different way, which involves the use of a
global variable (or a set of variables) and that's 2).

>   4) Act more like "current" ... there's a function returning
>      whatever "state" struct is settled on.  (But ideally
>      without the pseudo-global.)

How would you be going to arrange that in practice?

> I'm amused that nobody really reacted to the technical comments in
> my previous posts on this thread.  That's unfortunate, since from
> where I sit it feels to me like everyone else is a johnny-come-lately
> on this issue, and is now grasping at the quickest and dirtiest ways
> to work around the issue instead of coming to grasp with the various
> underlying issues.
> 
> IMO #3 is strongly preferable.

Of course we can do that.  At least I don't have any objections.

Greetings,
Rafael


-- 
"Premature optimization is the root of all evil." - Donald Knuth

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-06-21 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-19  2:33 [PATCH 1/2] acpi choose sleep state help Shaohua Li
2007-06-19 11:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-19 22:00   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-20  6:18   ` Shaohua Li
2007-06-20 11:32     ` [RFD] How to tell ACPI drivers what the target sleep state is (was: Re: [PATCH 1/2] acpi choose sleep state help) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-20 11:32     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-20 14:08       ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-06-20 14:36         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-20 14:36         ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21  6:57         ` David Brownell
2007-06-20 14:08       ` Alan Stern
2007-06-21  1:51       ` Len Brown
2007-06-21  1:51       ` Len Brown
2007-06-21  7:10         ` David Brownell
2007-06-21  7:04       ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 12:42         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 12:42         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 13:03           ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-21 14:46             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 15:23               ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-06-21 19:41                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 19:41                 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 15:23               ` Alan Stern
2007-06-21 16:35               ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 19:42                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 19:42                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 16:35               ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 14:46             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 15:37             ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 18:59               ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-21 18:59               ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2007-06-21 20:03                 ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 20:37                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:37                   ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:03                 ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 19:52               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 19:52               ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2007-06-21 15:37             ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 13:03           ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-21 14:48           ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 14:48           ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 20:04             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:04             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:22               ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 20:22               ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 20:41                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:41                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 15:56         ` Alan Stern
2007-06-21 16:35           ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 16:35           ` [linux-pm] " David Brownell
2007-06-21 17:11             ` Alan Stern
2007-06-21 17:11             ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-06-21 18:02               ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 18:51                 ` Alan Stern
2007-06-21 19:51                   ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 20:35                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:46                       ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 21:02                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 21:02                         ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 21:04                           ` Alan Stern
2007-06-23 22:00                             ` [RFC][PATCH -mm] PM: Introduce set_target method in pm_ops Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-23 22:00                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-23 23:46                               ` Alan Stern
2007-06-24  0:03                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-24  0:03                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-24  0:28                                   ` Alan Stern
2007-06-24  9:52                                     ` Johannes Berg
2007-06-24  9:52                                     ` [linux-pm] " Johannes Berg
2007-06-24 11:49                                     ` Igor Stoppa
2007-06-24 11:49                                     ` [linux-pm] " Igor Stoppa
2007-06-24 13:04                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-24 13:04                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-24 12:57                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-24 12:57                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-25  0:01                                       ` David Brownell
2007-06-25 22:14                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-25 22:14                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-25  0:01                                       ` David Brownell
2007-06-24  0:28                                   ` Alan Stern
2007-06-25 13:04                                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 13:57                                     ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-06-25 13:57                                     ` [linux-pm] " Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-06-25 19:28                                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 22:16                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-25 22:16                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-25 19:28                                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 13:04                                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-23 23:46                               ` Alan Stern
2007-06-21 21:04                           ` Re: [RFD] How to tell ACPI drivers what the target sleep state is (was: Re: [PATCH 1/2] acpi choose sleep state help) Alan Stern
2007-06-21 20:46                       ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 20:35                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 21:00                     ` Platform-specific system power states Alan Stern
2007-06-22 19:49                       ` David Brownell
2007-06-22 21:30                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-23  1:32                           ` Alan Stern
2007-06-23 20:20                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-25  0:10                               ` David Brownell
2007-06-25 22:59                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-25  0:26                           ` David Brownell
2007-06-25 23:04                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 19:51                   ` Re: [RFD] How to tell ACPI drivers what the target sleep state is (was: Re: [PATCH 1/2] acpi choose sleep state help) David Brownell
2007-06-21 20:19                   ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:32                     ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 20:50                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:50                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 20:32                     ` David Brownell
2007-06-21 20:19                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21 18:51                 ` Alan Stern
2007-06-21 18:02               ` David Brownell
2007-06-20 11:32     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-21  7:14     ` [PATCH 1/2] acpi choose sleep state help David Brownell

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