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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@in.ibm.com>
To: Takenori Nagano <t-nagano@ah.jp.nec.com>,
	Keith Owens <kaos@sgi.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	k-miyoshi@cb.jp.nec.com, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:54:54 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070814132454.GA8293@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070814083710.GA14538@suse.de>

On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 10:37:10AM +0200, Bernhard Walle wrote:
> * Takenori Nagano <t-nagano@ah.jp.nec.com> [2007-08-14 10:34]:
> > Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 02:05:47PM +1000, Keith Owens wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > To sum up, couple of options come to mind.
> > > 
> > > - Register all the RAS tools on die notifier and panic
> > >   notifier lists with fairly high priority. Export list
> > >   of RAS tools to user space and allow users to decide the
> > >   order of execution and priority of RAS tools.
> > > 
> > > - Create a separate RAS tool notifier list (ras_tool_notifer_list).
> > >   All the RAS tools register on this list. This list gets priority
> > >   over die or panic notifier list. User decides the oder of execution
> > >   of RAS tools. 
> > > 
> > >   Here assumption is that above list will not be exported to modules.
> > >   All the RAS tools will be in kernel and they always get a priority
> > >   to inspect an event.
> > > 
> > > What do others think?
> > 
> > Very good idea. But there is a problem how to give default priority to RAS tools.
> > 
> > How about priority changeable notifier_list? User can change list order
> > dynamically if they want. Of course, we have to give highest priority to kdump
> > by default. It is very useful for users who want to use some RAS tools.
> 
> I think that was the idea of the first “-” (“export list of RAS tools
> to user space”).
> 

So for the time being I think we can put RAS tools on die notifier list
and if it runs into issues we can always think of creating a separate list.

Few things come to mind.

- Why there is a separate panic_notifier_list? Can't it be merged with
  die_chain? die_val already got one of the event type as PANIC. If there
  are no specific reasons then we should merge the two lists. Registering
  RAS tools on a single list is easier.
- Modify Kdump to register on die_chain list. 
- Modify Kdb to register on die_chain list.
- Export all the registered members of die_chain through sysfs along with
  their priorities. Priorities should be modifiable. Most likely one 
  shall have to introduce additional field in struct notifier_block. This
  field will be a string as an identifier of the user registerd. e.g
  "Kdump", "Kdb" etc.

Now user will be able to view all the die_chain users through sysfs and
be able to modify the order in which these should run by modifying their
priority. Hence all the RAS tools can co-exist.

Any thoughts?

Thanks
Vivek




> 
> Thanks,
>    Bernhard

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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@in.ibm.com>
To: Takenori Nagano <t-nagano@ah.jp.nec.com>,
	Keith Owens <kaos@sgi.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	k-miyoshi@cb.jp.nec.com, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:54:54 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070814132454.GA8293@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070814083710.GA14538@suse.de>

On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 10:37:10AM +0200, Bernhard Walle wrote:
> * Takenori Nagano <t-nagano@ah.jp.nec.com> [2007-08-14 10:34]:
> > Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 02:05:47PM +1000, Keith Owens wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > To sum up, couple of options come to mind.
> > > 
> > > - Register all the RAS tools on die notifier and panic
> > >   notifier lists with fairly high priority. Export list
> > >   of RAS tools to user space and allow users to decide the
> > >   order of execution and priority of RAS tools.
> > > 
> > > - Create a separate RAS tool notifier list (ras_tool_notifer_list).
> > >   All the RAS tools register on this list. This list gets priority
> > >   over die or panic notifier list. User decides the oder of execution
> > >   of RAS tools. 
> > > 
> > >   Here assumption is that above list will not be exported to modules.
> > >   All the RAS tools will be in kernel and they always get a priority
> > >   to inspect an event.
> > > 
> > > What do others think?
> > 
> > Very good idea. But there is a problem how to give default priority to RAS tools.
> > 
> > How about priority changeable notifier_list? User can change list order
> > dynamically if they want. Of course, we have to give highest priority to kdump
> > by default. It is very useful for users who want to use some RAS tools.
> 
> I think that was the idea of the first “-” (“export list of RAS tools
> to user space”).
> 

So for the time being I think we can put RAS tools on die notifier list
and if it runs into issues we can always think of creating a separate list.

Few things come to mind.

- Why there is a separate panic_notifier_list? Can't it be merged with
  die_chain? die_val already got one of the event type as PANIC. If there
  are no specific reasons then we should merge the two lists. Registering
  RAS tools on a single list is easier.
- Modify Kdump to register on die_chain list. 
- Modify Kdb to register on die_chain list.
- Export all the registered members of die_chain through sysfs along with
  their priorities. Priorities should be modifiable. Most likely one 
  shall have to introduce additional field in struct notifier_block. This
  field will be a string as an identifier of the user registerd. e.g
  "Kdump", "Kdb" etc.

Now user will be able to view all the die_chain users through sysfs and
be able to modify the order in which these should run by modifying their
priority. Hence all the RAS tools can co-exist.

Any thoughts?

Thanks
Vivek




> 
> Thanks,
>    Bernhard

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-14 13:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-19 12:15 [patch] add kdump_after_notifier Takenori Nagano
2007-07-19 12:15 ` Takenori Nagano
2007-07-26 14:07 ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 14:07   ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 15:32   ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-26 15:32     ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-26 15:34     ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 15:34       ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 15:44       ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-26 15:44         ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-26 15:47         ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 15:47           ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 15:54           ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-26 15:54             ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-26 16:14             ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 16:14               ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 16:21               ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 16:21                 ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 23:28             ` Takenori Nagano
2007-07-26 23:28               ` Takenori Nagano
2007-07-30  9:16               ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-30  9:16                 ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-30 13:42                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-30 13:42                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-31  5:55                   ` Takenori Nagano
2007-07-31  5:55                     ` Takenori Nagano
2007-07-31  6:53                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-31  6:53                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-01  9:26                       ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-01  9:26                         ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-01 10:00                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-01 10:00                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-02  8:11                           ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-02  8:11                             ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-02 11:28                           ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-02 11:28                             ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-03  4:05                             ` Keith Owens
2007-08-03  4:05                               ` Keith Owens
2007-08-03  6:25                               ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-03  6:25                                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-03  6:34                                 ` Keith Owens
2007-08-03  6:34                                   ` Keith Owens
2007-08-03  7:37                                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-03  7:37                                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-03  7:10                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-03  7:10                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-05 11:07                               ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-05 11:07                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-14  8:34                                 ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-14  8:34                                   ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-14  8:37                                   ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-14  8:37                                     ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-14  8:48                                     ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-14  8:48                                       ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-14  8:53                                       ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-14  8:53                                         ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-14 13:24                                     ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2007-08-14 13:24                                       ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-16  9:26                                       ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-16  9:26                                         ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-16  9:45                                         ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-16  9:45                                           ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-17 10:56                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-17 10:56                                           ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-21  7:45                                           ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-21  7:45                                             ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-23  3:52                                             ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-23  3:52                                               ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-21 13:18                                           ` Jay Lan
2007-08-21 13:18                                             ` Jay Lan
2007-08-21 13:21                                             ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-21 13:21                                               ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-23  3:56                                             ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-23  3:56                                               ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-23 17:34                                               ` Jay Lan
2007-08-23 17:34                                                 ` Jay Lan
2007-10-04 11:30                                                 ` Takenori Nagano

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