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From: Takenori Nagano <t-nagano@ah.jp.nec.com>
To: vgoyal@in.ibm.com
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	k-miyoshi@cb.jp.nec.com, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Bernhard Walle <bwalle@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 08:28:48 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46A92E30.8070703@ah.jp.nec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070726155444.GC15969@in.ibm.com>

Hi Vivek,

Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 05:47:18PM +0200, Bernhard Walle wrote:
>> * Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@in.ibm.com> [2007-07-26 17:44]:
>>>> Of course, but that's why the patch doesn't change this by default but
>>>> gives the user the choice.
>>>>
>>> What value will distro set it to by default?
>> 0.
>>
>>> Can we be more specific in terms of functionality and code that exactly
>>> what we are trying to do after panic?
>> Well, KDB, but now everybody answers with “not mainline -- doesn't
>> count”.
>>
> 
> That's true. Its not mainline. We had similar discussion in the past
> also. I think we should allow only audited code to be run after panic().
> Leaving it open to modules or unaudited code makes this solution
> something like LKCD where whole lot of code used to run after the crash,
> hence was unreliable.

It is *not* KDB specific problem. Please grep in mainline kernel. You can find
some function using panic_notifier_list. (IPMI, softdog, heartbeat, etc...)
My patch gives a chance to use kdump for panic_notifier user. It is good for
kdump too, because kdump user goes to increase. :-)

Bernhard's idea (kdump uses panic_notifier) is very good for me. But it isn't
good for kdump user, because they want to take a dump ASAP when panicked.

Vivek, please think about this problem again.

If there is a developer who has the opinion on this problem, please give us your
opinion.

Thanks.

> If KDB goes mainline, then I think it is not a bad idea to call debugger
> first (if it is enabled) and then one can trigger crash dump from inside
> the debugger.
> Thanks
> Vivek
> 
> 

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From: Takenori Nagano <t-nagano@ah.jp.nec.com>
To: vgoyal@in.ibm.com
Cc: kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	k-miyoshi@cb.jp.nec.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Bernhard Walle <bwalle@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 08:28:48 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46A92E30.8070703@ah.jp.nec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070726155444.GC15969@in.ibm.com>

Hi Vivek,

Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 05:47:18PM +0200, Bernhard Walle wrote:
>> * Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@in.ibm.com> [2007-07-26 17:44]:
>>>> Of course, but that's why the patch doesn't change this by default but
>>>> gives the user the choice.
>>>>
>>> What value will distro set it to by default?
>> 0.
>>
>>> Can we be more specific in terms of functionality and code that exactly
>>> what we are trying to do after panic?
>> Well, KDB, but now everybody answers with “not mainline -- doesn't
>> count”.
>>
> 
> That's true. Its not mainline. We had similar discussion in the past
> also. I think we should allow only audited code to be run after panic().
> Leaving it open to modules or unaudited code makes this solution
> something like LKCD where whole lot of code used to run after the crash,
> hence was unreliable.

It is *not* KDB specific problem. Please grep in mainline kernel. You can find
some function using panic_notifier_list. (IPMI, softdog, heartbeat, etc...)
My patch gives a chance to use kdump for panic_notifier user. It is good for
kdump too, because kdump user goes to increase. :-)

Bernhard's idea (kdump uses panic_notifier) is very good for me. But it isn't
good for kdump user, because they want to take a dump ASAP when panicked.

Vivek, please think about this problem again.

If there is a developer who has the opinion on this problem, please give us your
opinion.

Thanks.

> If KDB goes mainline, then I think it is not a bad idea to call debugger
> first (if it is enabled) and then one can trigger crash dump from inside
> the debugger.
> Thanks
> Vivek
> 
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-07-26 23:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-19 12:15 [patch] add kdump_after_notifier Takenori Nagano
2007-07-19 12:15 ` Takenori Nagano
2007-07-26 14:07 ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 14:07   ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 15:32   ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-26 15:32     ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-26 15:34     ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 15:34       ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 15:44       ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-26 15:44         ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-26 15:47         ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 15:47           ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 15:54           ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-26 15:54             ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-26 16:14             ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 16:14               ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 16:21               ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 16:21                 ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 23:28             ` Takenori Nagano [this message]
2007-07-26 23:28               ` Takenori Nagano
2007-07-30  9:16               ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-30  9:16                 ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-30 13:42                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-30 13:42                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-31  5:55                   ` Takenori Nagano
2007-07-31  5:55                     ` Takenori Nagano
2007-07-31  6:53                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-31  6:53                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-01  9:26                       ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-01  9:26                         ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-01 10:00                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-01 10:00                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-02  8:11                           ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-02  8:11                             ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-02 11:28                           ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-02 11:28                             ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-03  4:05                             ` Keith Owens
2007-08-03  4:05                               ` Keith Owens
2007-08-03  6:25                               ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-03  6:25                                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-03  6:34                                 ` Keith Owens
2007-08-03  6:34                                   ` Keith Owens
2007-08-03  7:37                                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-03  7:37                                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-03  7:10                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-03  7:10                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-05 11:07                               ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-05 11:07                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-14  8:34                                 ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-14  8:34                                   ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-14  8:37                                   ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-14  8:37                                     ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-14  8:48                                     ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-14  8:48                                       ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-14  8:53                                       ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-14  8:53                                         ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-14 13:24                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-14 13:24                                       ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-16  9:26                                       ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-16  9:26                                         ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-16  9:45                                         ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-16  9:45                                           ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-17 10:56                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-17 10:56                                           ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-21  7:45                                           ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-21  7:45                                             ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-23  3:52                                             ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-23  3:52                                               ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-21 13:18                                           ` Jay Lan
2007-08-21 13:18                                             ` Jay Lan
2007-08-21 13:21                                             ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-21 13:21                                               ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-23  3:56                                             ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-23  3:56                                               ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-23 17:34                                               ` Jay Lan
2007-08-23 17:34                                                 ` Jay Lan
2007-10-04 11:30                                                 ` Takenori Nagano

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