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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@in.ibm.com>
To: Takenori Nagano <t-nagano@ah.jp.nec.com>
Cc: k-miyoshi@cb.jp.nec.com, Bernhard Walle <bwalle@suse.de>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:26:30 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070817105630.GA18167@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46C4184B.5030303@ah.jp.nec.com>

On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 06:26:35PM +0900, Takenori Nagano wrote:
> Vivek Goyal wrote:
>  > So for the time being I think we can put RAS tools on die notifier list
> > and if it runs into issues we can always think of creating a separate list.
> > 
> > Few things come to mind.
> > 
> > - Why there is a separate panic_notifier_list? Can't it be merged with
> >   die_chain? die_val already got one of the event type as PANIC. If there
> >   are no specific reasons then we should merge the two lists. Registering
> >   RAS tools on a single list is easier.
> 
> I think it is difficult, because die_chain is defined by each architecture.
> 

I think die_chain is arch independent definition (kernel/die_notifier.c)? 
But anyway, to begin with it can be done only for panic_notifier.

> > - Modify Kdump to register on die_chain list. 
> > - Modify Kdb to register on die_chain list.
> > - Export all the registered members of die_chain through sysfs along with
> >   their priorities. Priorities should be modifiable. Most likely one 
> >   shall have to introduce additional field in struct notifier_block. This
> >   field will be a string as an identifier of the user registerd. e.g
> >   "Kdump", "Kdb" etc.
> > 
> > Now user will be able to view all the die_chain users through sysfs and
> > be able to modify the order in which these should run by modifying their
> > priority. Hence all the RAS tools can co-exist.
> 
> This is my image of your proposal.
> 
> - Print current order
> 
> # cat /sys/class/misc/debug/panic_notifier_list
> priority   name
> 1          IPMI
> 2          watchdog
> 3          Kdb
> 4          Kdump
> 

I think Bernhard's suggestion looks better here. I noticed that 
/sys/kernel/debug is already present. So how about following.

/sys/kernel/debug/kdump/priority
/sys/kernel/debug/kdb/priority
/sys/kernel/debug/IPMI/priority

I think at some point of time we shall have to create another file say
description.

/sys/kernel/debug/IPMI/description

Which can tell what does this tool do? Other a user might not have any
clue how to prioritize various things.

Thanks
Vivek

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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@in.ibm.com>
To: Takenori Nagano <t-nagano@ah.jp.nec.com>
Cc: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	k-miyoshi@cb.jp.nec.com, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Bernhard Walle <bwalle@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [patch] add kdump_after_notifier
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:26:30 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070817105630.GA18167@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46C4184B.5030303@ah.jp.nec.com>

On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 06:26:35PM +0900, Takenori Nagano wrote:
> Vivek Goyal wrote:
>  > So for the time being I think we can put RAS tools on die notifier list
> > and if it runs into issues we can always think of creating a separate list.
> > 
> > Few things come to mind.
> > 
> > - Why there is a separate panic_notifier_list? Can't it be merged with
> >   die_chain? die_val already got one of the event type as PANIC. If there
> >   are no specific reasons then we should merge the two lists. Registering
> >   RAS tools on a single list is easier.
> 
> I think it is difficult, because die_chain is defined by each architecture.
> 

I think die_chain is arch independent definition (kernel/die_notifier.c)? 
But anyway, to begin with it can be done only for panic_notifier.

> > - Modify Kdump to register on die_chain list. 
> > - Modify Kdb to register on die_chain list.
> > - Export all the registered members of die_chain through sysfs along with
> >   their priorities. Priorities should be modifiable. Most likely one 
> >   shall have to introduce additional field in struct notifier_block. This
> >   field will be a string as an identifier of the user registerd. e.g
> >   "Kdump", "Kdb" etc.
> > 
> > Now user will be able to view all the die_chain users through sysfs and
> > be able to modify the order in which these should run by modifying their
> > priority. Hence all the RAS tools can co-exist.
> 
> This is my image of your proposal.
> 
> - Print current order
> 
> # cat /sys/class/misc/debug/panic_notifier_list
> priority   name
> 1          IPMI
> 2          watchdog
> 3          Kdb
> 4          Kdump
> 

I think Bernhard's suggestion looks better here. I noticed that 
/sys/kernel/debug is already present. So how about following.

/sys/kernel/debug/kdump/priority
/sys/kernel/debug/kdb/priority
/sys/kernel/debug/IPMI/priority

I think at some point of time we shall have to create another file say
description.

/sys/kernel/debug/IPMI/description

Which can tell what does this tool do? Other a user might not have any
clue how to prioritize various things.

Thanks
Vivek

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-17 10:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-19 12:15 [patch] add kdump_after_notifier Takenori Nagano
2007-07-19 12:15 ` Takenori Nagano
2007-07-26 14:07 ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 14:07   ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 15:32   ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-26 15:32     ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-26 15:34     ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 15:34       ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 15:44       ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-26 15:44         ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-26 15:47         ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 15:47           ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 15:54           ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-26 15:54             ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-26 16:14             ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 16:14               ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 16:21               ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 16:21                 ` Bernhard Walle
2007-07-26 23:28             ` Takenori Nagano
2007-07-26 23:28               ` Takenori Nagano
2007-07-30  9:16               ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-30  9:16                 ` Vivek Goyal
2007-07-30 13:42                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-30 13:42                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-31  5:55                   ` Takenori Nagano
2007-07-31  5:55                     ` Takenori Nagano
2007-07-31  6:53                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-31  6:53                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-01  9:26                       ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-01  9:26                         ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-01 10:00                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-01 10:00                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-02  8:11                           ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-02  8:11                             ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-02 11:28                           ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-02 11:28                             ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-03  4:05                             ` Keith Owens
2007-08-03  4:05                               ` Keith Owens
2007-08-03  6:25                               ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-03  6:25                                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-03  6:34                                 ` Keith Owens
2007-08-03  6:34                                   ` Keith Owens
2007-08-03  7:37                                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-03  7:37                                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-03  7:10                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-03  7:10                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-08-05 11:07                               ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-05 11:07                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-14  8:34                                 ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-14  8:34                                   ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-14  8:37                                   ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-14  8:37                                     ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-14  8:48                                     ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-14  8:48                                       ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-14  8:53                                       ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-14  8:53                                         ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-14 13:24                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-14 13:24                                       ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-16  9:26                                       ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-16  9:26                                         ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-16  9:45                                         ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-16  9:45                                           ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-17 10:56                                         ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2007-08-17 10:56                                           ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-21  7:45                                           ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-21  7:45                                             ` Takenori Nagano
2007-08-23  3:52                                             ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-23  3:52                                               ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-21 13:18                                           ` Jay Lan
2007-08-21 13:18                                             ` Jay Lan
2007-08-21 13:21                                             ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-21 13:21                                               ` Bernhard Walle
2007-08-23  3:56                                             ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-23  3:56                                               ` Vivek Goyal
2007-08-23 17:34                                               ` Jay Lan
2007-08-23 17:34                                                 ` Jay Lan
2007-10-04 11:30                                                 ` Takenori Nagano

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